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The refs should be accountable for such an blatantly obvious call that costed the Duck a 3-0 series lead and moreover, a for sure Stanley Cup. That single call heighten tension between the players which ultimately led to some fights and Pronger's elbow. Pronger will probably get a game suspension but I think the refs should be the ones serving the suspension due to poor officiating. In all the refs should be fired!

2007-06-02 18:56:14 · 26 answers · asked by Oscar N 1 in Sports Hockey

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i know i will probally get booed for this answer but it doesn't really matter.when ottawa played buffalo there was a similar situation where the puck hit brierre's skate in the same manner that it hit alfredson's skate and went in the net and the goal was disallowed so why should it have been any different last night?also how many other teams get as many 5 on 3 advantages as the sens?before any sen fans start crying about a dirty hit from pronger take a look at chris neil,he has gotten away with so many that have left another player injured.i am not saying what pronger did was right i am a redwings fan and look what he did to holmstum,but sens need to clean their own doorsteps.

2007-06-03 00:53:33 · answer #1 · answered by maureen b 3 · 2 0

Let's first go by the assumption that we all agree that there was a distinct, kicking motion by alfredsson. In that case, the on ice officials were the ones that got it right, and the video replay officials were the ones that got it wrong. So then, you're wrong in your analysis of the play. Now, let's look at it from the other way and assume that we all agree that it wasn't a distinct kicking motion. Then, the on ice officials are the ones that got the call wrong, and the video goal officials corrected the problem causing you, again, to be wrong. Either way you look at this, it isn't good for you. And there was SO much hockey left to be played at that point that you can't possibly say that it cost the ducks the game. That was early on in that particular power play and there could have very easily been another goal scored in that, what, more than a minute left, that would have swung the momentum of the game equally. The worst call made, or not made, was the pronger elbow. CLEAR penalty, not called. That wasn't just a more intense situation due to playoff style hockey, that was a dirty play.

2007-06-02 21:35:27 · answer #2 · answered by Kevin 6 · 2 1

The broadcasters were quick to point out that this goal bore a lot of resemblence to a goal by Duck Chris Kunitz. The difference is that Kunitz's goal was waved off while this goal was allowed. It's not fun when it seems like precedent was on your team's side.

I agree that there were some pretty ridiculous calls made by the refs tonight, but then again, every fan will always see things that favor their team. So I'm just going to seal my lips and know that the better team will prevail in the end. Refs are a huge part of a playoff series, but the only team I ever remember being SCREWED by the refs in the finals was Buffalo in '99 with Brett Hull's infamous cup winning goal.

Let's pray that doesn't happen again. Go Ducks! :)

2007-06-02 21:04:31 · answer #3 · answered by mochiislove 3 · 0 0

First of all everyone shut your holes cause nobody knows. The league has made it painfully evident that they are going to be super crryptic, wishy-washy, and just plain hypocritical about the calls on kicking the puck.

It is ridiculous that nobody on either side of the coin knew.

Sens fans, screaming no kick.
Anaheim fans screaming he kicked it.
Everybody knowing in their heart, this call could go either way

It was the league that made the call not the refs.

I think there were two motions:
A small kick or skate move (which I personally think was a "kicking motion")

And then a more extended kick/stop after the puck was gone so it doesn't matter (i think this is what the ref saw )

apparently the first move was not big enough, but this is definately not backed by previous calls this year or even in this playoffs

2007-06-02 21:26:55 · answer #4 · answered by bourgoise_10o 5 · 2 0

The refs didn't rule it a goal. In fact, they initially waved it off. It was then sent up for video replay and it was there that they decided that it was a goal. And if you watched the replay, the puck was already off the skate and directed towards the net before Alfredsson was regaining balance or doing the kicking motion.

As for Pronger...he was already under a microscope from his previous suspension and should have known better to be on his best behaviour until the end of the Finals, but instead chose to do a totally stupid act and injure another player. If and when he does get the suspension, he deserves it. Notice the refs did NOT make a call on the elbow!!

2007-06-02 19:03:00 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 4 2

The referee's decision was reversed by Colin Campbell,if you weren't watching the game.The referee made the right call,in that instance.The choice to call the cross-check that put Anaheim into a two-down penalty -kill was indiscrete,especially considering the dubious first call.Two referees and video replays have made calls less objective rather than more ,because you are just throwing more opinions into the mix,and Colin Campbell has consistently shown a lack of objectivity in his decisions.Alfredsson may have been within the rules,but he saw the puck coming and clearly turned his skate to direct it into the net,not a kicking motion but certainly a stretch of the notion of fair-play.I play a lot of ball hockey and play the ball a lot with my feet.It p i s s es off the straight hockey guys.In fact,in organized play ,it is illegal to make a forward pass by kicking the ball.Alfredsson has exploited a loop-hole in the rules that has not accounted for the degree of skill with which some players can handle the puck with their feet.It is an over-sight that may stand to be corrected in the future.

2007-06-02 22:34:39 · answer #6 · answered by kevin k 5 · 0 1

(Ducks fan)
I think that the instant replay should be as it is in the NFL. That is the review must have conclusive evidence to the contrary to overturn a call on the field/ice). I think he did kick it and the initial ruling should have stood.

Fortunately, I don't think it was the deciding factor in the game. The Ducks had plenty of time to recover.

Bottom line, the Sens played a bit better and were allowed a bit more latitude in the hitting so they won. Now had this been a deciding goal in the final minute, that'd be a different story.

2007-06-02 19:31:41 · answer #7 · answered by raider34 3 · 4 0

Well I understand the question, however it was not the refs fault. If you remember, the ref waved off the goal. It was only after the goal was reviewed in the booth by numerous experts and the head of officiating. The kicking motion he made had nothing to do with the puck going in the net. He deflected the puck with his skate towards the goal, (which used to be illegal as hell in the old days) then he made a kicking motion with his foot most likely because he was losing his balance.

2007-06-02 19:02:21 · answer #8 · answered by Mark Y 2 · 4 0

The rule is that it can't be directed in with a kicking motion. If you watch the replay Alfie actually moves his skate away from the net to deflect (not kick) the puck.

Face the facts, the Pronger elbow was Pronger being selfish!

It didn't just happen to be the same guy who bounced the winning goal off him he went head hunting!

2007-06-03 04:09:08 · answer #9 · answered by sensfantodd 3 · 1 1

He did get the call wrong. He called it no goal, when it clearly was a goal. But I don't blame him, as letting it be reviewed and not calling the goal is the right way to handle it.

I do think he should be fired. The blindside blow to the head interference call he missed on Pronger was a very dangerous infraction. I would expect they would be watching one of the dirties players on the dirtiest team in the league a bit closer. And come on. You have watched the ducks all year right? They were the most penalized team in the league (almost 300 more minutes than 17th Ottawa) They also drew the most penalties from opposition teams all year.

2007-06-02 19:37:17 · answer #10 · answered by JuanB 7 · 1 2

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