Problem solved for once and for all?

Question

Allow the puck to be kicked in. What are the drawbacks? The NHL wants more scoring. It makes for less controversy. No reason I can think of why they just don't allow them.
The only argument would be that kicking a skate around can be dangerous and I don't buy into that. Thoughts?

Players would still just kick at the puck when it was in their feet, they wouldn't be jumping up scissor kicking the ball soccer style, LOL. Players are already ALLOWED to KICK THE PUCK. Just that if it goes into the net, it doesn't count.

Answer 1

Someone with some sense! Well put Bob...hockey is a game of skill and if a guy has the ability to get a skate on a puck that close to the net with D hanging on them they should be rewarded, not scrutinized by a league that has shown an amazing inability to consistantly make "fair" judgement calls. I dont buy the kicking can be dangerous either...tripping guys going full speed towards the net is more dangerous as the guy usually ends up with his skates in the air heading right for the goalie but there is no uproar about that. Or the nasty two handed cross check that sends a guys feet in the air. If a guy has the incredible hand-eye coordination to score a goal, he should also be rewarded for his skill in directing the puck to the net with his foot as well. I am all for kicked pucks counting.

Answer 2

Haha, Charlie Brown. Thanks for the mental image, Sens Enforcer...

I think they should just allow them. Yeah, I was plenty pissed when Alfredsson's goal was counted---but only because Sid's wasn't in round 1 and Alfie's looked like more of kicking motion than Sid's. Lol.

They disallow them because you can't judge intent...but to me that's an argument to allow them as well. If you can't judge intent, you can't say someone ment to boot it in. My biggest issue with it though, is that it just delays the game and gets people heated either way BECAUSE the rule is instituted. If there were no rule, you'd still be upset about a goal being scored on your team, but there'd be less controversy.

I don't think anyone's going to try booting it in every time, the players just aren't used to that... I don't buy this dangerous thing either, lol. All the traffic and bodies on the ice in front of the net and there aren't many ice skates incidents. Players are always crashing the net already, it's not like allowing kicking would mean they would be there more... They're already there.

EDIT: jader et al - ...LOL. Um, do you have any idea how much it hurts to be hit with a puck? Pretty badly. That's why the first instinct is to deflect shots with a stick. I think the rule about punching the puck in is fine. But when your feet are on the ice in motion and the puck hits them, what can you do? Of course some guys do it on purpose. Like the Toronto War Room says though, you can't judge intent.

The European players who have played soccer are the ones who are less likely to use their hands, so they wouldn't be hitting the puck in with them.

This is an open-ended discussion. It's not too hard to be mature and try to respect everyone's opinion, even if you disagree... (This guy just sounded so condescending, it got me a little peeved, haha...)

you - Excellent point about goals going in off "kicks" more often on rebounds or deflections...

You're right about all the focus on and complaining about this rule. That's why I think it should just be allowed, (as long as no one's "flailing" his skates around in the crease, lol) there would be no more controversy and agonizing over the matter every time it happens.

Answer 3

I think that goal should have been disalowed based upon current rulings. But, in a long term, I wouldn't mind seeing them get rid of that rule. Not only can you never really judge intent,, but the stick will always be the best way to get the puck in. No one will be soccer kicking a puck in (though the image of Selanne juggling a puck with his feet would look awesome), and, I mean, it's not like you can trap a puck in your feet like you can in a hand. And it does things like cast doubt on the officiating of a game like tonight.

Answer 4

I think there can not be kicking allowed because then you are going to have people coming in kicking at the puck in the crease.

I think the way it is now is good . . . there just needs to be way more consistency.

I thought all the reviews went back to NHL headquarters or something. Is it really that hard to get one or a few guys to sit down and hammer it out. And they make the call.

Answer 5

they should all count. w/ goalie pads as big as they are these days, their job is to stop anything that crosses the plane/face of the goal. if a player wants to kick it in, and his wrist or slapshot sucks so much that is what he wants to rely on ... kicking, good for him. (i'm purposely being facetious). i realize that most kick-in goals are not first shots. the goalie should be able to stop it. if the goalie is out of position because he made a poor judgment OR if he didn't control a rebound, that's his fault. he had the chance. most of these "disputes" are over deflections and rebounds. again, bad on the goalie for not controlling the rebound. the guy kicking it in is probly getting hooked anyway. as far as the deflection, does it matter who it hits? shoot, sometimes it hits the goalie's defensemen and goes in, or the goalie himself. some guys get all wrapped around the axle about a kicking motion. if the goalie can't keep it out. that's his fault. count em all.

furthermore, kicking is allowed in any other reference, just not on scoring. shoot, if you want to try to kick the puck in on a shootout, GO FOR IT! you're better off w/ a wrister or a deke. i think even the goalies would agree. the best chance for a puck getting in, is using the stick and minimizing friction on the ice. blah blah blah.

bob, good point about the danger of the skate. i say this ... that just like there are rules (not to mention, "the code") to protect the goalie, THERE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE NO KICKING ALLOWED IN THE CREASE. anywhere else is fair game. just like other rules/codes (a player shouldn't be throwing elbows at invisible opponents while in his opponents crease. this is to protect the goalie. it's his territory. you either DO YOUR BUSINESS AND PUT PUCK ON NET W/ A STICK OR YOU GET OUT!) before all you wusses freak out. again, any decent player worth his salt knows that his best chance of scoring is using his stick. let's be honest about this WHOLE topic. it's really about deflections and rebounds, and i've already given my opinion.

besides, way too much angst, whining, and time is wasted on this whole concept

if you people who whine about kicked-in goals, cared one tenth about world hunger as you care about this rule, then all Ethiopians would be obese. sheesh.

Answer 6

they dont allow kicking the puck as a goal becuase they have to protect the goalies, i would want a sharp blade being kicked in my direction. plus hockey is a game of skill unlike soccer where they have a giant net and only hit it once a game

Answer 7

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Answer 8

Wow, Bob. Rule 70 kinda seems like a no-brainer. With your reasoning, a player should be able to use any part of the body to score.

How about we have a guy camped out in front of the net to just flail his arms and legs trying to deflect the puck into the net? You know how many hockey players are skilled soccer players also?

Your "solution" would be a nightmare, but I admire you for the attempt to generate discussion (however misguided it might be).

Answer 9

I agree Bob. Let them kick it in. If you can kick the puck all over the ice then you should be able to kick it in the net.

Answer 10

I dont think it would change the game drastically, its like when they allowed players to have a foot in the crease, I dont mind tapping it with the side of the skate, but if people try to pull some Charlie Brown stuff and take big swings it'll cause a problem.

I dont think the NHL will allow it, but if they do, I wouldnt object.