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I was reading a debate between Francis Collins and Richard Dawkins and Dawkins had no current valid response to Collins when collins stated that if the laws of the universe especially gravity was off by a tenth, life could not exist...and that that should be proof for intelligent design....any thoughts?

2007-06-02 11:19:58 · 11 answers · asked by Nautica™ 5 in Science & Mathematics Astronomy & Space

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If gravity were different, the Universe would be different. That would mean that life **as we know it** may be impossible, but who's to say that life as we don't know it is also impossible?

And even if it were, then there's the anthropic principle: If life were impossible, we wouldn't be here to debate about it. Only in a universe where life is possible are we here to engage in the debate.

So the answer to your question is NO. The existence God cannot be proven through science. If it could, it would not require faith to believe, merely logic.

2007-06-02 11:47:58 · answer #1 · answered by Keith P 7 · 1 0

Actually, I'm sure he had an answer, since there is one, but most of that debate didn't actually end up in the magazine.

The basic idea is, that if the law of physics don't work the way they do now, you'd never be here to ask why there weren't different. Maybe there were a billion universes before this with slightly different constants that never could form life - it's not like the universe would have cared. We see ourselves in this universe because it's pretty much the only one that could support life.

No, science cannot prove god. By definition, a god is supernatural, and science only deals with the natural. All science can say about god is 'there doesn't appear to be one' since it has no actual measurable effect on this world.

2007-06-02 20:14:58 · answer #2 · answered by eri 7 · 0 0

Proof for "Intelligent Design.".....What in the world is that supposed to mean?

Because of what someone said, you jump to the conclusion that "a person of some kind designed it that way." Boy, you are a trusting person aren't you, and you are reaching way out there to find some reality with which you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is some kind of magic creator that put all of this here. Come on...

Let me ask you this...Do you believe in aliens?
Yes, or No ???
Really, tell us if you believe in aliens?
Earthlings are human beings born on and living on this Earth, or those who lived on the Earth some time in the past. right?

And, you suggest, God created the Earth and everything on it. Therefore, God did not live on Earth when he created it. He or She lived somewhere else, and was born somewhere else. If you are with me so far, then God is an alien, and has always been one. So, you believe in aliens, or not? Oh, by the way, tell us everything you know about God's mother and father, and God's sisters and brothers. I would like to hear about that.

You cannot prove a Myth using science. That is not what Science does.

Also, your question does not belong in this section of yahoo Questions and Answers. it should be placed over in the section for Religion. Please have the common decency to enter all questions of this type where they belong, and don't muck up an otherwise good thing.

2007-06-02 22:12:56 · answer #3 · answered by zahbudar 6 · 0 1

God and science are mutually exclusive. You cannot prove the existence of God with science.

Belief in God is faith based. Attempting to prove God's existence by looking to science is futile, and in my opinion, shows a lack of faith. If you have a true belief in God, it shouldn't matter what science says about the dynamics of the Universe, God should always be real to you. As such, and as a scientist, I implore people to view science, not as a belief, but as a changing absolute. Not "believing" in evolution, for example, is equivalent to not "believing" in gravity. Galileo was labeled as a hieratic in is time because he proclaimed that the Earth was not the center of the Universe. He used science to make an observation. Although at the time that observation was hard for many to believe, as time went on and science showed his postulations to be correct, everyone eventually accepted it.

If you believe in God, then great. But that doesn't mean you should not accept science. It is through science that we seek to understand our Universe, NOT TO UNDERSTAND GOD. With that said, no reputable scientist would ever proclaim that they have disproven the existence of God.

2007-06-02 21:06:55 · answer #4 · answered by libaram 2 · 0 0

Quantum Theory opens up many possibilities. I am a christian and for a long time I struggled with this same question. After reading "The Fabric of the cosmos" by Brian Greene I discovered that God fit perfectly into Quantum theory.

2007-06-02 20:46:52 · answer #5 · answered by Tristan S 2 · 0 0

Religions typically do not mesh well with science. Religion has changed over time as humans have understood new sciences and technologies and crossed new thresholds. Miracles: maybe...Quantum Physics, Thermodynamics: fact. If humans can survive themselves for the next few hundred years, new findings in science will disassociate human consciousness from the need for religion.

2007-06-02 22:21:05 · answer #6 · answered by Matthew C 2 · 0 0

The existence of gods cannot be proven or disproven by any form of rational argument.

I see that someone has relapsed into quoting scripture. That is really pitiful.

2007-06-02 20:55:59 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Absolutely not.

This assumes that life is the "goal" of the universe. The universe could not care less if all life ended tomorrow.

2007-06-02 18:51:21 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

when,you add" what if" to a reality you change to a new set of laws and a different reality. collins asked a" lets pretend" question

2007-06-02 18:52:00 · answer #9 · answered by boyd r 1 · 0 0

not as life as we know it, but some thing will form. We are limited by what we can concieve.

The universe is big, near infinte. Give infinite chances anything is bound to happen

2007-06-02 18:28:49 · answer #10 · answered by bob 3 · 0 0

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