Will these fish work???

Question

I am starting a new tank and just need to know if these fish are compatable...5 tiger barbs, 2 simease algae eaters, 2 zebra daninos(pink*glowlight* and for cycling but will keep), 1 apple snail(albino mystery snail), 1 rainbow shark, 8 rasboras, 4 neons, 2 glowlights, 7 cardinals, and 3 African Dwarf Frogs...I am following the 2-3 small fish per gallon, 1-2 medium fish per gallon and 1 large fish per gallon rule.My tank isnt even bought yet but i am going to buy (hopefully soon)a 20 gallon tank with brown and black gravel and have liots of hiding places for all the bottom dwelers and swimmers. Thanks for all the help! dont post anything if you are just going to tell me to buy a bigger tank please! oh and buy the way I need to know a couple of other thing do bettas harm albino mystery snails? and I need to know son stuff to get for the goldfish im am getting *make that 3* they are all medium and living into a 10gallon tank. They are a panda moore and 2 commets...THANKS!!

The tank*s* filters are aquatech 10-20 powerfilters and the tropicals tank is 79 degress F

WILL THEY LIVE TOGETHER!!!!!!!! ill put the comets in a pond!

Answer 1

Not all the species you list are compatible. The tiger barbs, Siamese algae eaters, and shark will be a little too boisterous for small fish like the neons and rasboras. Also, any of the tetras and the danios should be in schools of 6+ of their own species, so that would mean 6 neons and 6 glowlights. Bettas might try and nibble the eyestalks of the snails, but this is something you'll have to figure by the individual - not all bettas will bother them.

Here's a link that can help you figure out the compatibility a little more: http://www.elmersaquarium.com/000tropfishcareguides.htm If you look up each fish by name, it will give you "communities" that fish could be kept in. For instance the neons only go in community 1, while tiger barbs go in communities 5-9, so these species wouldn't be compatible. This way you can decide which species you prefer to keep, and which to try and substitute.

Also, Carson has a more correct view of stocking. Even the 1" per gallon rule doesn't work that well, since it doesn't account for waste production, filtration, committment of the owner to doing cleaning/maintenance, aggression/territoriality, activity level of the fish, amount of decor in the tank, and lots of other variables. See this link for more about stocking levels in an aquarium: http://www.firsttankguide.net/capacity.php

Here's another link that you might find useful - it's an aquarium "planner" that lets you consider some of these variables along with the different species you like, then picks out potential problem areas: http://www.tropicalresources.net/phpBB2/templates/BMan1Blue/Stocking.htm

Answer 2

No. The only rule I've heard is the 1" adult size fish per gallon and that only works for small, slim bodied fish. According to your "rule" you could put an oscar in a 1 gallon, or 10 of them in a 10 gallon...no way! If you put all those fish into a 20 gallon you will have many dead fish and be out a lot of money.

How about this stocking plan:
6 zebra danios
6 rasboras
1 dwarf gourami or 1 betta
1 snail

You'll have lots of color and activity in the tank and it will be stocked just right. A betta should be fine with a snail. Please do a fishless cycle for your tank so your fish aren't harmed: http://www.aquahobby.com/articles/e_fishless.php

Also, please don't put 3 goldfish in a 10 gallon...that's just cruel.

ETA: They will not live together for long...some will kill the others, poor water quality will kill the rest (unless you're doing huge daily water changes). You need a much bigger filter than one rated for a 20 gallon tank.

Answer 3

Don't even consider putting 3 goldfish in a 10... Think more like 38 with a need to go for 55 once they mature.
The "rules" you are following are just total nonsense.

Common Glass Aquarium Sizes

5.5 Gallon 16x8x10 (128 sq. in.)
10 Leader 20x10x12 (200 sq. in.)
10 Hexagon 14x12x18 (127 sq. in)
15 Gallon 24x12x12 (288 sq. in.)
20 High 24x12x16 (288 sq. in.)
20 Long 30x12x12 (360 sq. in.)
25 Gallon 24x12x20 (288 sq. in.)
29 Gallon 30x12x18 (360 sq. in.)
30 Gallon 36x12x16 (432 sq. in.)
30 Breeder 36x18x12 (648 sq. in.)
33 Long 48x13x12 (624 sq. in.)
37 Gallon 30x12x22 (360 sq. in.)
38 Gallon 36x12x20 (432 sq. in.)
40 Long 48x13x16 (624 sq. in.)
40 Breeder 36x18x16 (648 sq. in.)
45 Gallon 36x12x24 (432 sq. in.)
50 Gallon 36x18x18 (648 sq. in.)
55 Gallon 48x13x20 (624 sq. in.)
65 Gallon 36x18x24 (648 sq. in.)
Petite body fish
1” per gallon or 1” per 12 sq. in. of surface
For example 20 long has 360 sq. in. surface area
360/12=30
Can a 20 long support 30” of fish? Probably not.
A 20 high has only 288 sq. in. surface area
288/12=24
Can a 20 high support 24” of fish? Probably not.
A 25 is also 288 sq. in. surface area
288/12=24
Can a 25 support 24” of fish? Probably.
I like to average the two for a more accurate capacity.
For the 20 long, 30 by surface area, 20 by volume averages to 25”
Can a 20 long support 25” of fish? Probably.
For the 20 high, 24 by surface area, 20 by volume averages to 22”
Can a 20 high support 22” of fish? Probably.
Why does the 20 long support 3” more fish that the 20 high?
A larger surface area allows a greater oxygen exchange, which is as important as volume of water.
Large bodied fish, such as gold fish you need to double or even triple these numbers, i.e. 3 gallons per inch and 36 sq. in. of surface per 1” of fish.
This is not the only consideration for fish tanks. Types of fish will appreciate one type of tank over another. For example, fast swimmers like Zebra Danios, Pearl Danios and Blue Danios will do best in a tank that is at least 30” long. They would be better kept in a 20 long rather than a 25. Giant Danios would do best in a tank at least 48” long. They would be better kept in a 55 rather than a 65.
On the other hand, slow, tall bodied fish like Angel Fish and Discus will do best in a deep tank. They would be better kept in a 65 rather than a 55. They, like other cichlids also need a bit more than the 1” per gallon and/or 12 sq. in. surface.

Answer 4

i wouldnt do the small tetras they might get nipped on by the tiger barbs they are bad about fin nipping.

everything else looks okay though, maybe a few more tiger barbs instead of the tetras. start out with just a few fish then add some more in week intervals if your water tests out okay.

hope this helps.


and... maybe just one goldfish would be best for the ten gallon they make too much waste

Answer 5

No,tiger barbs in groups are going to atack your other fish.Your question is kinda long so ,get a book and read it .This is the best way to learn what goes with what.Also you are overloading your tank.

Answer 6

no longer likely. commonly an unsightly visual attraction for a fish in my view is extra exciting in the two actual and social features =D yet, it is style of unhappy how there are basically 3 left....

Answer 7

the 20gallon sounds good, except chinese algae eaters can get nasty as they get older.

as for the goldfish... PLEASE don't. comets get 14"-18" each and belong in ponds. not to mention moors and comets shouldn't be mixed. comets are very fast and moors are slow, plus moors have poor vision. 1 moor would be okay in a 10gallon, but you'd need at least a 20 gallon if you wanted another one with him.

Answer 8

Ditto to Kylie Anne.


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