Interesting interview just now on BBC News 24 with the former Sun Editor & a writer for the Independent paper?

Question

I wonder if this is the level of inaccurate reporting that is being relied upon by the so-called "intellectual" McCann supporters on this website..
The Sun editor states [and I quote verbatim]

1) That Ben "Fordham" went missing in Crete... doesn't he mean Ben Needham?

2) That Ben's mother is looking at every 22 year old in the street wondering if that was her son. Thats strange considering Ben would now be 17 years old and not 22 years old?

3) That Madeleine McCanns parents were 40 Yards / 36 Metres AWAY FROM THE HOTEL ROOM - gosh doesn't the distance diminish??
... amongst other inaccuracies.......

Now let me see who was the most articulate and reasoned interviewee - the writer for the Independent or the former Sun Editor???? Who proved to be the overbearing bully during this interview with Jeremy Paxman..... ??

Is this the sort of inaccurate dross [emanating from the tabloids] that people are relying upon for their stories.....

Also Ben Needham went missing in Kos not Crete!!

Earthcalling" - I think that I will!!!

"rufusfirefly" I think that you have backed up my point quite admirably! Thank you !

"rufusfirefly" - Actually your post was quite funny so I shall give you a thumbs up!

" wildamberhon" - I strongly disagree with you. The tabloids are the papers who are celebrating the McCanns and the supporters [and I will use this term!] are manifestly swayed by the dictates of The Mail, Express, Sun, Mirror and Daily Star. Quality papers are not covering this story in the same manner. Why would someone who opposes the McCanns' extensively quote from newspapers which support them?
That is illogical!! If these papers are quoted it is to pick up the discrepancies in the McCanns' stories!

Also the rather tacky chav Sky News channel is rallying around the McCanns and a lot of "your" people quote this channel extensively as a reliable source.

"wildamberhon" You have just stated that people who are anti-McCann happily quote the tabloids when they choose to .. then in the same breath state that people who are in support of the McCanns have autonomy of thought. So what you have in fact just done is to also generalise about people who do not support the Mccanns.

At the end of the day and during all of my time on this forum I have yet to come across McCann supporters [and what else are you supposed to call them .. you either support them or you do not.. you cannot support them 50% or 25%] who have not taken the same dictatorial almost tyrannical approach as the newspapers -
1)You have to be with the McCanns or leave them alone;
2) if you dislike them it is because you are working class, low income, blue collar worker;
3) If you dislike them you are poor and not a professional
4) If you dislike them it is because you hate Madeleine McCann, do not have children and are a paedophile

a charge lebvelled at Dave s simply because he was not prepared to concur with an opinion which is quite frankly waning.

I have looked at online articles on the McCanns and the rhetoric on this site is almost a replication of what has been written in the tabloids. ~The former Sun Editor could almost have been any one of the posters on this site who choose to support those poor excuses for parents.
As for the window being closed, I understand this to be the converse I am afraid, and, I guess that this is crux of the matter, I have absolutely no faith in the sources quoted on this forum by people who condone the actions of these people, because that brings into play issues of integrity for me.

.. and so we must beg to differ..

Answer 1

I wish that Rufus Firefly could learn to spell even basic words like 'wankers'. It would soooo add to his style.
Of course, Trip,people don't read the Sun for news they read it for celeb gossip and so are ill equipped to join the grown ups. I bet they are terribly interested in the latest Harry Potter book but they should steer clear of News and Events. I await the thumbs down. Lol

Answer 2

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Answer 3

Lol, rufusTfirefly! Very good.

... Back to the question - I can't help but notice that the whole reporting was very different in the first two or three days following the abduction. It's amazing how many differences there are now - the distance between the restaurant and the apartment is just one of them.
No matter how favourably they dress it up now though, it doesn't help Madeleine one little bit, does it? Poor baby.

Answer 4

If that is all true, then this "former editor" should be ashamed!

However, as I have more common sense than to touch a pathetic, worthless little rag like the Sun, I cannot comment on the tripe it spouts daily. You'd have to be a complete dipstick to take anything The Sun reports seriously, regardless of your opinion on any event!

Nonetheless, it seems to me that you're conveniently forgetting that not only ''McCann supporters'' (a ridiculous umbrella term in itself) buy this so-called newspaper.

Edit: Hey trip, thanks for the response.

Firstly, don't presume that you know ''my'' people to be on any side, as I not narrow-minded enough to pigeonhole myself like that. I have my opinion like anyone else, but I refuse to fit into someone's categories of 'pro vs anti' - that is just daft. In fact, several people who happily class themselves as "Anti-McCann" (despite the *minor* detail that Madeleine is also a McCann) quote the tabloids when it suits them - remember all the nonsense about windows being left open until it was discovered that this was not the case at all?

I do feel compassion for any parent who loses their child, but I think the McCanns did an exceptionally irresponsible thing and are now in a horrible situation. I don't understand their recent behaviour, nor do I condone it - but I will not wish them all manner of ill, unlike many people here.

As for the 'supporters' term, obviously that is your choice if you want to use it, it matters not a bit. Nonetheless, it is still nothing more than bundling a group of individuals with differing opinions into a little box with one label. It is a bit much for you to declare that all 'supporters' rely on the tabloids. What about individual differences? What about those of us who have more sense to believe the nonsense the media spouts, and would never leave our kids alone like that, but still think that losing one's own child must be an unbearable nightmare?

The likes of myself, i.e. sensible people who think it is thoroughly wrong to leave young kids unattended, but who dislike bashing people who must be suffering tremendously (admittedly through their own stupid, careless behaviour) do not appreciate people assuming that we all hang on every word The Sun says. As I'm not a gullible fool, the very thought makes me feel rather ill. I thoroughly agree with you about Sky News, it is beyond a joke. I wouldn't trust the tabloids as far as I could throw 'em - I have a mind of my own. That was the whole point.

Although you don't agree with me, I hope that this makes sense to you. If not, then there really is nothing more to be said.

Answer 5

look mate, we don't need interlectual wankas like you from the leafy bleedin liberal ghetto suburbs to challenge and confront our 'prejudices'. All these elabor8 constructions an' stravagant semantics.. all to justify a reasoned case. we are at home and dead comfy wit' our prejudices- we are defined by our hatreds! This gives us our identity..wot more cogent can yer get than thart? The sun tells us what and how to think..it agrees with us..not givin' us some feckin ontological bleedin' incongruency between ar beliefs and our experiences like wot the damned grauniad or the inderpendent does!

Answer 6

Why don't you offer them your sub-editing skills?

Answer 7

so what difference do a few years or inches make.

Answer 8

Nice one