http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/05/verschfte_verne.html
2007-06-01 08:39:09 · 19 answers · asked by red_butterfield 2 in Politics & Government ➔ Other - Politics & Government
kapute2 - I truly believe trains and torture are two different things -- how about you?
2007-06-01 08:48:40 · update #1
holbrook91 apparently believes that as long as we don't torture people AS BADLY as the terrorists do , we're not like the terrorists in any way at all - logic...
2007-06-01 08:53:08 · update #2
And tony draws a moral equivalence between the olympic flame of all things and torture.
You guys are too too much
2007-06-01 08:55:19 · update #3
I must say, I'm impressed with all the "Yeah, but look at all the Nazis gave us..." arguments popping up here
2007-06-01 08:58:03 · update #4
"After all the Nazis gave us Volkswagens, punctual trains and interstate highways...so...um... TORTURE IS OK!!!"
LMAO
2007-06-01 09:03:49 · update #5
TJ79 says:
"Where the phrase was coined is irrelavent. it is the action that bothers people"
UNTRUE TJ -- the term is NEWSPEAK - a way of softening the perception of what is being said - those aren't PEOPLE being killed, they are "soft targets."
2007-06-01 09:07:42 · update #6
B.Kevorkian - and German can be TRANSLATED -- surprised Dr. Death?
2007-06-01 09:10:11 · update #7
Have all of you just GIVEN UP on even the IDEA of winning "hearts and minds"??
2007-06-01 09:12:03 · update #8
There is absolutely, positively, unquestionably, completely no reason whatsoever, under any circumstances, to torture another human being.
And any society which DOES so, is not able to place themselves above the very "barbarians" they claim to be fighting.
2007-06-01 08:45:17 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
It bothers me even more that in the Republican debate, the 'frontrunners' didn't even blink about torture. What kind of signal does THAT give? I didn't know about where the term came from, but it clearly is a euphenism for torture. If America (advertised as a free country) will stoop to the lowest form of interrogation (with questionable results), the spiral that America is on, will ultimately continue.
2007-06-01 08:53:02 · answer #2 · answered by words_smith_4u 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Seems unlikely. The Gestapo was notable for speaking German.
Did you know that Social Security was based on a proposed German system that hinged on the statistical fact that the average life expectancy at the time was less than 65 years?
2007-06-01 09:03:03 · answer #3 · answered by B.Kevorkian 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hitler also orchestrated the development of the Volkswagen. Does that mean that people who buy them are pro-Hitler? Just because the verbage was coined by someone does not mean that you plan to use it 1) for the same goals or 2) to the same degree.
In case you didn't know we follow the Geneva Convention's rules regarding prisoners. That makes one side. Take for example the public beheading of civilians (with a small rusty knife) that the terrorists commit. Sounds a lot worse than what we do, loud music at all hours, weeks of lights always being on, food rationing, and rewarding people who spill their guts. I'm glad you are keeping things in perspective with regards to the whole situation. (sarcasm intended)
2007-06-01 08:42:53 · answer #4 · answered by jay k 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
from the link:
>>The phrase "Verschärfte Vernehmung" is German for "enhanced interrogation". Other translations include "intensified interrogation" or "sharpened interrogation". <<
According to 3 on-line German-to-English translators, this phrase - Verschärfte Vernehmung - meant:
1. Intensified interrogation
2. Increased interrogation
3. Intensified hearing
2007-06-01 08:56:07 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
does it bother "liberals" that "enhanced interrogation" has been used by more than just "conservative" administrations?
Where the phrase was coined is irrelavent. it is the action that bothers people.
I personally think that it is horrible that we are using "enhanced interrogation". We should be using outright brutal torture. That might make them think twice before they try to behead more of our citizens.
2007-06-01 08:59:05 · answer #6 · answered by TG79 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
In a word "NO". It doesn't bother any of them.
The only thing they are bothered about is whether to lounge by the pool or go to the country club this weekend for a round of golf.
Oh yeah ... and they are bothered by the "real and crucial" issues of the day ... Barak's middle name ... Edward's hair ... Hillary's hips.
2007-06-01 10:26:23 · answer #7 · answered by HillBillieNot 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I suppose it all depends on whose bull is being gored. You might feel differently if an extracted truth would prevent 10,000 deaths including your own family. Its all in your point of view by friend. Its easy to spout platitudes. Its quite another to face reality. Members of our intelligence community and armed forces do that on a daily basis to insure our safety and freedoms. How many lives do you tolerate or exchange for limited abilities to prevent future catastrophes????
2007-06-01 08:48:38 · answer #8 · answered by Rich S 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
There would never be a need for the US to interrogate me...I can tell you the terrorist that Liberals sympathize with do a lot worse...but I guess no one saw the great little cartoons they did...I would much rather be water boarded than have my hand drilled or head put in a vice...
2007-06-01 08:44:02 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
well, let's see...why don't we purge and cleanse ourselves of everything in modern society that had its genesis with the Nazis...
no Olympic flame...no interstate highway system...no Volkswagens...
there is a debate in the medical community about if the knowledge that was gained thru the horrible experiments of the Death Camps be used for legitimate purposes now...
remember what "Nazi" was short for: National SOCIALISM...sounds farther left than right to me...
2007-06-01 08:44:42 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋