Do you think the constant slating of the Mcanns is reflective of the lack of intelligence in this forum?

Question

Excellent answer Veni, Vidi, thanks.

I think the main reason people are slating them is because they briefly left the children unattended while they went to get something to eat which is when the kidnapper striked.

They do not realise that they are already suffering an unimaginable torment for this mistake and that millions of other parents leave their children unattended every day. Most of the comments are hypocritical.

And also because of the media hype which they have generated which is obvious just a very smart tool being used to their advantage in order to find their child.

They think that the Mcanns are enjoying a "holiday" which is a disgusting opinion and as I said reflective of the lack of intelligence here.

That probably looked wrong, I meant that lots of parents leave their children unattended for brief periods of time.

Like when you sleep for 8 hours at night for example.

Or when you hang your washing on the line.

It only takes a second for a child to be snatched.

Ophelia - I have never read the sun in my entire life.

Also, at what point in my question did I claim that I was intelligent??

The abusrdity of your presumptious answer baffles me.

After think about it I am agreed. The question should have been "Do you think the constant slating of the Mcanns is reflective of the lack of compassion and empathy in this forum?"

Triptripper - In answer to your question I attained a psychology and a law degree at Exeter Univesity.

Thanks for your answer

Answer 1

.. and which Medical School or Law school did you attend? LOL

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So you have NOT BEEN TO LAW SCHOOL [ meaning graduate school ] or medical school. You simply studied for a combined degree or two separate degrees ].

One wonders if you did in fact study for two separate degrees [rather than a combined degree ].Why you would choose to undertake a 3 year Law degree after studying for a 3 or 4 year Psychology degree is really quite baffling! Ordinarily if someone completes a degree which is not Law and then wishes to pursue Law afterwards they undertake the one year CPE conversion course not a further degree course!!! I smell little porkies!!!

Furthermore, having looked at the University of Exeter website they do not offer combined degrees in Psychology and Law anyway!!
http://www.exeter.ac.uk/undergraduate/degrees/psychology/psychology.shtml
Would you like to go online and pick another university where they DO offer this option???

Finally the University of Exeter is not exactly a top 10 British University!!!

It is listed in POSITION NUMBER 28 in the Times League table for universities [2007]
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/displayPopup/0,,102571,00.html

POSITION 34 in the Guardian league table [2008]
http://browse.guardian.co.uk/education?SearchBySubject=true&Subject=University+ranking&Institution=Exeter&Go=Go


and POSITION 18 in the Sunday Times League Table ... of 2006
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/stug2006/stug2006.pdf


As for myself I attended the LSE which is listed in positions 4 and 6 and 3 respectively, obtained a 1st for my Law degree [and am presently studying for the BVC ] .

Similarly LSE is a top university for LAW in particular. It is listed in positions 3 and 4 respectively within the Guardian and Times SUBJECT League Tables:
http://browse.guardian.co.uk/education?SearchBySubject=false&FirstRow=0&SortOrderDirection=&SortOrderColumn=GuardianTeachingScore&Subject=Law&Go=Go
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/displayPopup/0,,13425,00.html

Exeter is not even in the TOP 20 under either guide!!!


To further reinforce my point. The University of Exeter does not even figure in the World Top 200 universities [2006] whereas the university I attended is in position 17:
http://www.indiaeducation.info/studyabroad/Best-Universities/World-Universities.asp

So in conclusion, my intelligence far supercedes your own.. good day..

Answer 2

Dude, (I'm assuming you're a dude), you'd better brace yourself...this q isn't going to go down lightly or well with certain people... I personally think that this whole issue has been picked apart to it's barest bones. The issue hasn't even been about Maddie for quite a while, it's become an exercise for people to boast about their 'excellent' parenting skills (amongst others), yet I have to wonder how many of these Über-parents find the time to sit on here the whole answering Questions, whilst 'their kids are never out of their sight'... I also find it hard to comprehend that anyone can be sooo obsessed with this topic for sooo long. There are things happening around us everyday, that affect us on a larger scale, there are things each of could be actively doing to change our environment to make things better. I'd think that energy could well be spent somewhere else. I would have thought that this case would have highlighted the issues and plight of missing children, of the sick members of our society that prey on opportunity and kids. Alas, somewhere, somehow we've become stuck on 'what the Mccanns did/didn't do next' drama... There are people dying, starving, suffering on our front door steps, educations & health care is declining and THIS is what people getting worked up about?! How does all this bickering to and fro help the cause? How does this help to find a little girl, that everyone claims to care about, that is possibly gone forever?

Answer 3

No I think we should be allowed our opinions regardless of what you think it has nothing to do with intelligence.

I could turn the question round on you in my eyes you would have to be pretty THICK not to see that what the McCanns did was out off order and all the do gooders on this forum are forgetting who we should be worried about!!
People are spending far too much time worrying about the miserable excuses for parents and seem to be forgetting it is Madelaine who is the one we should be thinking about.

The McCanns have the pope to give them tea and sympathy I do not feel the need to. I may sound harsh saying this but hey I don t care ! People may have a lot more sympathy for these people when they stop revealing in the media spotlight.

There is thousands of children missing why should the McCanns have all the media and the world helping them what about all the others do they not matter??

It is terrible when any child goes missing including Madelaine but you do not see all the other parents in the papers and on sky news every five minuets.

Answer 4

Not at all. It is very intelligent to speak out against people endangering the lives of children. It's a shame more people don't do this, if this makes people think before they take unneccessary risks with their children's lives, and if it saves just one more child going through what Madeleine's going through, then it's worth it, don't you think? What is more important; the welfare of children or the feelings of their parents?
No-one is saying that this couldn't have happened another way, we see the news, we know it does, but this is no excuse for the McCanns doing what they did is it? It doesn't make it right. Yes, maybe it could have happened whilst her parents were in the next room, but it would more than likely not have, and those are the odds I prefer with my child's life, don't you?30 minutes, if that really is how long they were leaving them for, is not exactly briefly, is it? Going to dine alone is not something they needed to do, like going to the loo or sleeping or hanging the washing out (which doesn't take 30 minutes on any clock on God's green earth!)
I don't think it's wrong that people speak out against the McCanns, I think the way in which some of them do it is wrong, I probably have been guilty in one or two of my posts,but it's more frustration that people don't realise that we're only so angry because we care more about what Madeleine is going through than her parents. Is it so wrong to put a child before an adult? That is basically what we're doing, nothing more.
In my defence, not that I should need one just for expressing my opinion, in 2 or 3 posts, I have stated that I don't think the McCanns should lose their children or go to prison like some people have, I have never said they deserved to lose their child, no-one does; except the obvious types, but only then through the correct channels and authorities, not snatched from their bed, left alone or not.
In some posts, people have said that people who don't agree with the McCanns are jealous of them. How stupid is that? My little girl is sat three feet away from me, safe and sound, playing with her toys; why on earth would I be jealous of the McCanns missing a daughter?
Sorry, it's a bit long isn't it? I think people are just going to have to agree to disagree, we're not going to come to an amicable agreement on this situation and arguing amongst ourselves isn't going to help Madeleine is it? I think we should just leave it alone now, and come back on here, hopefully to celebrate, if Madeleine is found.

Answer 5

Not at all I see more parents that would not put their children in such a dangerous situation because there seems to be more non supporters. With the supporters..I see parents who would not 2nd guess leaving their child alone. So no lack of intelligence to me is those who see this as a little mistake. When in fact it is child endangerment which to me is far worse then a mere mistake. Actually it should not take an intelligent person to know you dont leave toddlers attended and not looked after properly. Check out the story of the 2 toddlers that drowned in Pennsylvania....yet another case of irresponsibilty on a caregivers part. Doors are quite easy to lock and well if I had a pond on my property it would be fenced in.


Add...do you have hidden cameras in the homes of all the parents on yahoo answers? How do you know who leaves their kids home or not. And when did 3 hours become a short period of time? My 13 year old has never even been alone at home that long. So you who say we slate something that has been proven and even lied about in the beginning by the parents should not be slating parents out there who you think leave their kids alone at 2 and 3 years old when you dont have facts that they really do do that.

Answer 6

No, the releasing of yellow balloons and wearing of yellow ribbons is a lot less intelligent, what is that going to achieve?

I do in fact think the ribbon business, demeans the charities that use them as a fund raising medium for such causes as breast cancer research, aids etc, as aside from raising awareness, they are raising funds for research into life saving treatments, a worthwhile endeavour.

As the police already have resources (internationally) why do they need, 'income' from selling ribbons, wristbands etc.Releasing balloons? what IS that about - intelligence?

I think the intelligence of the McCanns peers, is reflected in the questioning of the behaviour of these 'allegedly' intelligent parents.

Their actions invite criticism.

Whether they do it emotionally or otherwise a message to Madeleine, at the beginning of all this may at least have damped down that criticism.

But there was none.That poor child if she was/is alive, and has/d any opportunity (which I doubt) to see any of this,at least deserved to hear a heartfelt message from her mummy and daddy - she hasn't/hadn't.

Even if it just diappeared into the ether, I could NOT, have not spoken to my child,even just in the hope that she'd hear, words that may have been the last she would hear from her parents lips.

Answer 7

With all due respect, I would not lower myself to the level of slating a diverse group of people, simply because they don't agree with me. Someone's opinion does not necessarily reflect their intelligence.

It does irk me when people do this. I have a PhD - not that this should matter here - and I was stunned when a couple of people decided that I am of inferior intelligence that them, just because my opinion is different to their own. I'm hardly inarticulate. Nor am I judgemental enough to assume that my university education is much more valuable than anybody else's, unlike some.

Hope that makes sense.

Answer 8

They didn't just pop out for a bite to eat, they went out for the entire evening, God knows how much longer they were intending to stay out and they probably did the same every night during that holiday. How do you know what they are feeling. Doctor McCann by his own admission said they had been through all the emotions and now it's time to move on, they said it they believed they did nothing wrong, hence exonerating himself from any guilt (those are the facts) - that is why the are constantly being slated.

Answer 9

I dont think their slating is reflective of a person's intellect, more that people have a strong opinion of the way the McCann's are going about things.

Whether they are right or wrong, who knows.

Answer 10

No, it reflects that some people have formed opinions that are contrary to your own. No more, and no less.

Based on your own statement, you seem to think that those who are "slating" the McCanns are lacking intellectually. If that is the case, why the need to resort to "slating" as a response/retaliation? According to your own reasoning, wouldn't this indicate that you also possess a sub-normal I.Q.?

Answer 11

*Groan*
I wasn't going to say anything else about this but...
A lot of people seem to have forgotten that the person/people who take Madeline are/were OPPORTUNISTIC PREDATORS. No one commits a crime like this without careful panning. The parents left her and her siblings 1/2 and hour, 1 hour 3 hours - what do WE know? Where we there? The child is GONE. If we're going to debate how long you should leave a child alone for - no matter what age - then we should call up ALL the parents whose kids were taken and examine their movements in microscopic detail. Then they should ALL be held accountable for their kids disappearance.
Instead of debating the McCanns parenting skills, shouldn't we be appalled that we live in a society where something like this can even happen? Have we seen any post here going off at paedophiles/people who prey on kids? Parents who claim to NEVER let their kids out of their sight, the people who are so quick to assume FACTS that they don't know, what are YOU doing to make YOUR environment safer? More child friendly? It's not about 'liking' the McCanns or not, I don't know them, I've never met them. It's about forming a think tank, a proactive solutions as to how we can make the world a safer place for our kids. I don't know if going to meet the pope is the right move or not, but I do know that if I was in their position, I'd cling onto every hope, ANYTHING to get my child back. Is it even realistic to say that they should be 'looking' for their child? Wouldn't the cops say, 'This is a police investigation, what you are doing is hampering our efforts?' Other than hiding behind the comfort of your computers and slagging, what are YOU doing to get the child back? After seeing certain responses , if I were ever in this situation KNOW that I'd do my damnedest not to show any weakness and I know where I wouldn't get support. When I think of the family whose baby got taken by a dingo, who were publicly reviled and spat on...when the facts were proven, did any of the haters apologise? Feel remorse for the abuse inflicted upon this family? A girl is missing, a young child is in the hands of God knows who - maybe take a moment to get off your pedestals and think about that.