Israels right to exist?

Question

The jewish people have lived on that land for thousands of years. They have every right to be be there, and Israel has every right to exist as a nation!! Nobody stole anybodies land. 48 hrs. after the 1948 U. N. mandate creating a Jewish homeland (of which they were kicked out by the arabs) Israel was attacked by the arabs. Your friends in Iran are the ones who say Israel should be wiped off the map, and the Holocaust is a myth! You people need to check your history. Stop believing in this Arab Islamic propanganda!! Its astounding the degree of Anti-Semitism, and racism out there!!

Answer 1

jews have a right to live there - but not at the expense of the palestinians

israel has constantly showed that it has no concern for the palestinians in the lands it occupies.

Although i believe u are a bit extremist - i believe a switzerland type system is needed to ensure that arabs and israelis can live in peace and still respect each others rights and religions

Because lets face it, theyre sick of war, and they jsut want to live their lives

And yes i agree that denying the holocaust is bad as my great grandfather was a Soviet POW was kept in one in Poland, but Israel was established as a peaceful home for war victims, but it has not treated its neighbors very peacefully in the past.

Beirut Bombing=the blitz

Answer 2

First of all, Israel was created in 1948, after the Zionist massacres against the Palestinians and after the Palestinians exodus. Then, the Holy Bible and also other sacred books have stated that the Canaanites were the natives of the Holy land (Palestine), and the Israelites came and committed genocide against them. Therefore the Hebrews or Israelis ruled The Holy Land. See links below. Moreover, the occupation of Palestine by the Zionist Jews is based on " The Jews are blessed, The sons of Canaan (Arabs) are cursed". OK, let the Arabs be cursed by God, I think that if Arabs were cursed, they should face their destiny in the eternity not in this life. I think the Jews want to torture the cursed people (Arabs) in secular life and eternity. LOL!!
And, the sacred books also tells that the Israelites commutted many sins, therefoe, they had to be punished by getting them out of the Holy Land. One more thing, Jews from Europe don't belong to Semites and Israel is a secular state, not a Jewish State, I'd rather call it the State Of the Jews.

The Holocaust is not a myth regardless of the number of innocent people who were killed in it, wether they were 100 people or 6 millions, it's a crime. Forget that " Ahmadi Nejad", he likes to gossip, I'm sure that words run out of his mouth unexpectedly. He just said that Israel must be wiped out of them map to gain some support from Arabs and Muslims all around the world, especially the Palestinians i.e. he's a hypocrate. I think the Jewish Propaganda in 1000 times stronger than the Arab Islamic one. Jews have the right to practice their religion in Palestine, and one shall prevent them. But Israel as an occupant state doesn't have any right to exist, that's if we neglect the UN decision of 1947. And the political pressure on Arabs.

Answer 3

It's basically ignorance. The original Jews and the Palestinians are the same people with different religions. The Jews were expelled by the Romans for constantly revolting against their Arab-ruled puppet kingdom and the Helenization of the culture. The Jews remained in Samaria. Most of the Palestinians were Christians when the Arabs invaded in circa 600s AD forcing conversion or migration. The Arabs have treated the Palestinians badly ever since but yet they want to destroy their brethren, the Israelis instead?

One other important thing - all the surrounding countries are UN members and UN resolutions give Israel the right to exist. Demographics have changed since the lines were drawn in the 40s so if they were being drawn today under the same constraints, the Israeli border would be very close to where they are constructing their anti-terrorist fence.

The Palestinians have wanted their freedom from the Arabs and their own country for a long time and now that it is within reach, they are blowing it due to lack of rational and/or normal Islamic thinking.

Answer 4

The United Kingdom occuppied the entire area that is now called Israel prior to 1948. After WWII they decided to give what was considered Palestine to the Jews and that state became Israel. I couldn't care less about the issue of who is the legitimate owner of the land. All I know is the UK had no right to give away land that was not theirs to begin with. It's like the US giving Mexico to Russia. It's not theirs to give away. Most of the area that is now Israel was called Palestine prior to 1948. Israel is actually an illegitimate state that was set up by the UK, US and other countries and with unlimited funding and weapons was able displace the indiginous people with foreigners from out side the continent. Unfortunately for the Jews, their victims refuse to knuckle under even when they are fighting against an enemy with unlimited financing and weapons. They rather blow themselves up while taking their enemy out then give in to the overwhelming force. They cannot fight a war fair and square so they have to hit below the belt and use terrorism because the only other choice is to surrender. Money and force will not prevail over Karma. Watch out Israel, Karma is going to bite you in the butt.

Answer 5

First do some check of history and see who kicked the Jewish out...
Second,the Jews used to live there 2000 years ago,for the last centuries there were Arabs living on that land.I would like to see you giving away your home and go live in a refugee camp because before Europeans kick them out in US there used to be Native Americans living there.So if you think it's OK what happened in Palestine,guess you won't have a problem giving your home to a native American,would you?
I don't deny Israel's right to exist...It exists for 60 years and everyone has to accept this.But Israel has to accept the existence of a Palestinian state if it truly want peace.
And btw there is nothing racist is criticizing the policies of Israel and this is what most people here do...

Answer 6

and what about Palestines right to exist???????
I am an American not of Arab descent but I have studied and still study this issue deeply.

I know the holocaust happened and I know what the Iranian president said is horrible and unfair. But can I ask you something? Do you truely think what Israel is doing to the Palestinians is fair???????? I don't

I have site after site after site that can show you or anyone what is taking place. Maybe the Israeli government lies to her people just as the USA government lies to her people.

I will say this, YES the Holocaust happened but isn't the Israeli government doing the same to the Palestinians just in a different way?
think about it.........
how would you feel if someone came and bulldozed your home and took your land? leaving you nothing except a hungry and homeless family?
How would you feel if military drove through your camp or neighborhood and opened gunfire on your son, your daughter, or any other family member?
How would you feel if your family was totally destroyed?

Answer 7

For about 2000 years, the vast majority of Jews lived outside Israel, and became much wealthier (in general) then non Jews. So yes, historically speaking, Israel belongs to the Jews more then to the Palestinians. But there was a purpose the UN voted in favor of Israel's creation: Israel has a duty to defend Jews from the madness of tyranny. So the question is, how did Israel defend Klara Mandic? Bobby Fischer? Pollard, who is still in an American prison, and had been there for 22 years, after giving Israel information which was important for it, but not important for the US?

Answer 8

That is probably the most fundamental and biggest problem. Lot of people(like Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah...etc) don't recognize Israel and think that Israel don't even have right to exist. Because of that they can't even get started on any discussions or talks. How can two sides negotiate if one doesn't even recognize another? I have no clue how anybody can convince those who refuse to recognize Israel. If anyone can figure that out, that's about worth 10 Nobel Peace Prizes.

Answer 9

Israel right to exist when the Zionists fully recognize the Right of Palestine to exist.

Answer 10

The Palestinian people have lived on that land for thousands of years, or they did until the Zionists committed a slew of massacres and terrorism to get them to leave. They are just as much descendents of the semitic tribes who lived there 2000 years ago as today's Jews, if not more so. Most people converted to Christianity and/or Islam in the years after the collapse of the Roman empire. That is simple historical and demographical fact. The reasons for the conversions are beside the point.

The most infamous massacre of the 1948 war was at Deir Yassein. It was outside the area allotted by the U.N. for the Jewish state. It was a month before Israel was "attacked by the arabs." That is simple historical fact. If you believe using armed forces to take away people's land and homes, massacring those who resist isn't stealing the land, you have a pretty weird definition of theft.

You yourself appear to deny (against all historical evidence, both Palestinian witnesses and Israeli military archives) that the that Zionists who founded Israel deliberately, systematically and with premeditation forced the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine off their land and into exile, committing many massacres against innocent people in the process. You deny the right of Palestinians to occupy the land of their ancestors, and reserve that "right" for Jews only.

Sure, you scream racism if that Iranian president denies the holocaust. Why isn't it racism when you deny the mass murders committed by Zionists in order to create Israel? Why isn't it racism when you deny equal rights for Palestinians? The holocaust is a historical fact, but the Zionist project to create Israel and dispossess the Palestinians was started before Hitler was born.


P.S. The following are from http://www.palestineremembered.com :


"Regarding antisemites, Theodor Herzl explained how it could benefit the Zionist enterprise, he wrote in his diary:
"The antisemites WILL BECOME our most loyal friends, the antisemites nations will become our allies." (One Palestine Complete, p. 47)


"A month after the Nazi pogrom against Germany's Jews, famously known as Kristallnacht, Ben-Gurion provided an interesting mathematical formula for saving German Jewish kids. He stated in December 1938:
"If I knew it was possible to save all [Jewish] children of Germany by their transfer to England and only half of them by transferring them to Eretz-Yisrael, I would choose the latter----because we are faced not only with the accounting of these [Jewish] children but also with the historical accounting of the Jewish People." (Righteous Victims, p. 162)