Why do we always think of our-selves as "un-natrual", or that we must follow some kind of universal pattern...

Question

, or some kind of higher consciousness that will show us the true nature of reality. I am thinking of buddhism, taoism etc.
and in the west we have religons telling us that more or less all we do is a sin. Why is everything we do considerd incomplete?
Are we not part of nature, thus natural?
if we cant understand life with all its struggels, pain, happiness, birth, death etc.
is that a reason to suspect that we are living wrong or with ignorance?


Sorry for my bad english,
it is not my mother tounge.

Answer 1

Yes, we are part of nature and thus natural.
Religion (any) is "re-connection" with the divine, which is roughly equal to ego surrender. The ego or desire is, by a really basic definition, the separation of self from world - and necessary. It's our nature to be "agents" in the world, and we need to see ourselves as alienated and desiring because that's how we must function as fleshly beings in the physical world. Eastern religion and Western both say the same thing but use different metaphors: to **experience** our connection with God / our divine nature, we must surrender the ego. For Eastern, the barrier is desire; for Western it comes from our being flesh in itself - but these metaphors have the same meaning.

Answer 2

The unnatural-thought or notion is a product of the self alienated mind: http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/ph/phbb.htm

'or that we must follow some kind of universal pattern... '

Universalizing is a product of our sharing, but simplification or rejection for the alien contradiction is a subsequent reaction; we start with superstition and through struggle and conflict with contradiction we step up to a more competent reflection:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erick_Erickson

The Erikson life-stage virtues, in the order of the stages in which they may be acquired, are:

hope
will
purpose
competence
fidelity
love (in intimate relationships, work and family)
caring
wisdom

Answer 3

When we look at another person , it is not our reflection. when we hear them speaking the words are not ours, when we share our inner most thoughts with them, they do not know us that closely. but when we try to build those bridges of similarity between us we never quite measure up. We have been divided in so many ways by our cultures that there barely remains any reference for resemblance of one.

Answer 4

(Isa 55:8) For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts,
neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
Some how man got off track and since Adam started it. We as a species have tried it our way. Not God's way or Satan’s way which is his way.
That is why God the Father sent his son to correct this boo boo we made.

Answer 5

that is deep... seriously you must be like reall tuned in with your inner..................thing. but i can really only awnser that question with, humans need to be perfect, its something we just need and crave (im not talking OCD) and since nothing can be perfect, everything is incomplete.