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5 of the 24 bills that bush says he will veto are pro union bills. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070531/ap_on_go_pr_wh/unions_veto_threats;_ylt=AoNXI06N.dlnWeTtk12DhN2s0NUE

2007-05-31 07:41:52 · 24 answers · asked by david c 4 in Politics & Government Politics

is it becasue he never worked a hard days life like the rest of us.

2007-05-31 07:42:19 · update #1

24 answers

Workers have voted against unionization for the past quarter century. Now unionized workers make up less than 10% of the workforce.

I guess middle class workers don't care about middle class America, either.

2007-05-31 07:47:40 · answer #1 · answered by Time to Shrug, Atlas 6 · 3 1

Pro union doesn't necessarily mean pro worker. Union bosses very often are looking out for their own good and not so much for the rank and file. Before you make the assumption that a veto is a veto against the middle class you should look at the details of the bills and see what negative effects they might have on the average worker. That includes indirect effects. For example the minimum wage increase. It sounds like a great idea, right? But what happens when a business can't afford to hire the entry level employees to do a necessary job and they end up closing down. That puts everybody who worked for that company out of work.

2007-05-31 15:35:13 · answer #2 · answered by srdongato2 5 · 1 0

Bush is just continuing the assault on unions that Reagen started 25 years ago. Yes unions have their problems but they were the only voice that the working man had. When Reagen fired the air controllers he started an action that stripped unions of their power. Striking workers were suddenly being replaced rather than bargained with to end the strike. Since then we have seen the Republicans work tirelessly to destroy unions and have, for the most part, succeeded. The working class is declining and we are becoming a third world nation with only the rich and poor and no middle class.

2007-05-31 14:54:58 · answer #3 · answered by diogenese_97 5 · 1 1

And how many bills is he NOT vetoing from the unions?
That's like getting upset at an employer for not hiring white people until you find out he hired ten of them and four he didn't had felony records.

Where are the rest of the facts? Why only a tiny portion of one side? And this tiny bit of one fact means he doesn't "care about Middle-class America"?

How silly.

Unions have become more and more socialist with time, and the mediocrity they encourage by crushing all incentive pay, all reward raises, anything that rewards initiative is disabling employers from any kind of encouragement for better work and better quality.

Our mediocre goods are a reflection of this, and it has cost us long enough in the world market.

2007-05-31 14:49:37 · answer #4 · answered by mckenziecalhoun 7 · 3 2

I would argue that he does care enough about middle class America. Enough to keep the unions from forcing business to outsource their labor. If companies cannot produce their product for less than they sell it they cannot survive. And if labor is high in country A (USA) but cheap in country B (China, India, Mexico) they'll take their production centers to B. It's not a question of being employed at X dollars an hour, it's a question of being UNEMPLOYED at 0 dollars an hour.

According to Stefan Weinman spokesman for General Motors, General Motors spends $5.2 billion on health care for 1.1 million people, equaling $4,727 annually per person. People can buy cheaper cars and get the same value without the health care costs of $1,525 built into every vehicle made. Add another $675 per car for pension costs. General Motors oldest retiree will be 110 years old this year. The employee worked for GM for 32 years and has been collecting pension and health benefits for 47 years. If this employee dies and leaves behind a spouse, the spouse will get a partial part of his benefits. For every worker working at General Motors they are footing the bill for 2.5 retired workers. The picture is not going to get any better as long as the UAW isn’t willing to make concessions. What concessions could the UAW make? How about going on par with what the blue-collared salaried workers make and then negotiate to the national averages. The UAW pays 7 percent for their medical benefits while the salaried employees pay 27 percent for the same medical benefits. The national average paid for medical benefits is 32 percent. According to Automotive News, "DaimlerChrysler is in talks to set up a China venture that would make and export Chrysler cars to North America, a top executive said on Thursday, sketching a politically charged move." In China, car makers generally pay about $1.95 an hour in wages and benefits. By comparison, its U.S. workers are paid on average about $36.50 an hour. Hmmm....employed at X or unemployed at 0? Unions have outlived their usefulness. The BEST thing for middle class America is to get rid of them.

2007-05-31 15:19:33 · answer #5 · answered by Bigsky_52 6 · 1 1

Uh, to my knowledge there's no reason to think Bush cares about anyone but himself and his buddies.

Never has.

Edit after reading the other answers: Geez, people!

Yeah, weren't unions (when they existed, they are nearly extinct) who forced employers to stop sending their employees to their deaths in unsafe conditions, created the system of living wages, and basically made it possible for people other than those who own everything to live decent lives really horrible.

I guess all of these union haters themselves hate the middle class. And thanks to them, we won't have one for long. I bet your children will be really grateful for having to work 80 hour weeks for a little rice and a lean-to to live in when you have your way.

Of course, your grandchilren, who will die before reaching age 5 might not agree.

After all, the people who actually do all the work SHOULD starve, while the people who do nothing but buy and sell money should own all the rest of us.

I wish everyone who longed to live in a feudal society where 95% of the population are serfs, would frickin MOVE already, and stop trying to destory this country.

2007-05-31 21:22:01 · answer #6 · answered by tehabwa 7 · 0 1

It all boils down to the fact that the left wants handouts. They want more and more from the government. If they have their way more and more will be riding on the cart and fewer will be pulling it. At some point the system will collapes.

2007-05-31 15:49:39 · answer #7 · answered by superninty 2 · 0 0

Of course not!
Contrary to the manufactured image he has of a Jihn wayne like tough guy from Texas, he's a spoiled little rich kid who had everything handed to him his entire life including the Presidency of the United States!
And remember it's only "class warfare" if the working middle class might benefit. When elitists crush unions, we can't call that class warfare!

2007-05-31 14:48:45 · answer #8 · answered by annarkeymagic 3 · 2 2

unions are almost useless now days. Unions were completly needed back in the industrial revolution when kids were forced to work extreme hours but now times have changed and businesses are getting competitive with their employees. For the most part, businesses are not taking advantage of their employees anymore and there are too many agencies which audit the way companies work now so that working conditions are good.

2007-05-31 14:46:07 · answer #9 · answered by amorudence 3 · 3 3

Of course Bush could care less about the middle class. And it's free trade destroying the manufacturing base, not unions. But pathetic nutjob cons need their scapegaot, so its the unions.

2007-05-31 14:47:52 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

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