Zogby poll: nearly 3 of 4 troops in Iraq want withdrawl within a year. Why don't you support the troops?

Question

So bring 'em home! Aren't you unpatiotic if you don't support the troops?!!! Sorry, but you can't have it both ways!

Of course, the nearly 75% of the troops who are for withdrawl will do their duty and follow orders like they always have, even feeling how they do about this illegal and unjust war that we can't afford either in treasure or blood. And that is how it should be... soldiers should follow orders and concerned citizens of a democracy should question and reign in governments that don't listen to the people.

But shouldn't the troops know the situation and its prognosis better than anyone else? Certainly more than those armchair generals sitting safely at home watching Fox.

Go here to read the entire article if you have any resemblence of an open mind:

http://www.zogby.com/soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=12827

By the way, don't cop out and call me unpatriotic, a liberal or your other pet terms and names. I have been a Republican for over 50 years.

Answer 1

Like you, I hope the American public will hold their leaders more accountable and put pressure on them to work towards a speedy end to this Iraq war.

We can do for the soldiers what they can't do for themselves since they are busy putting their lives on the line as we speak.

My husband was deployed to the Middle East several times. He can attest to the dissatisfaction amongst the soldiers about going to Iraq. Many of them felt it was not justified and did not see the link to 9/11 at all. But yes, they will obey orders.

I was a Republican all my life and just went Independent last year. You won't find a more diehard conservative patriot than me, so here's to you, buddy!

Ignore all those who are going to call you a "liberal" just because you don't support the war.

Answer 2

Hey how’s it going. I looked at your link and saw that it was basically an article with none of the details of the poll itself. The only poll I could find that related to this topic was dated 28 Feb 2006, so if you have a link to a different survey please let me have a look at the link if you could. Anyhow the little "how the survey was conducted" blurb for the survey I found said:

"The survey included 944 military respondents interviewed at several undisclosed locations throughout Iraq. The names of the specific locations and specific personnel who conducted the survey are being withheld for security purposes. Surveys were conducted face-to-face using random sampling techniques. The margin of error for the survey, conducted Jan. 18 through Feb. 14, 2006, is +/- 3.3 percentage points."


According to the Dept. of Defense there are roughly 2.3 million members in the various branches of the military.
944 respondents can hardly be considered a large enough sample to say that 3 out of 4 troops want to withdraw from Iraq.

I’ve been in the Army for over 11 years with multiple deployments to Iraq. We did not sit around and whine about how unjust the war is, or that the US should pull out from Iraq. There were very few people that didn't know what war was before 9/11, that didn't know what a military did, almost 6 years later there shouldn't be anybody that’s the least bit confused with the dangers of being in the military, we all volunteered and all of us wanted to be in the military, its the life we chose, if a person doesn't like the life style, then they leave. Every bit of training we do revolves around what to do in combat, not what we do when we're hanging out at home on vacation. This is what we get paid to do, this is what we train to do day in and day out, it’s our purpose. Moral is high, we're doing our job, what we volunteered to do. Do I enjoy leaving my wife and daughter to go to war, no, nobody does, so I don't happily go skipping off to war without a care thinking "wow, I'm glad I joined the Army so I could get in shape and get all this college money for nothing." Any military member that still tells you that they didn't know what they were getting into this far into the war is absolutely wrong. Everybody I've been deployed with is motivated and determined to do their job no matter what political party is in charge at the moment.

Conducting and posting the results of a survey based on the opinion of 944 out of over 2 million people, and then standing by those results as though they were fact is very irresponsible and should not carry much weight with anybody.

Answer 3

But shouldn't the troops know the situation and its prognosis better than anyone else?
-Absolutely, you are dead on. We need to support the troops and we need to listen to them, for they are the only ones who can give an accurate description on what the hell is going on over there.

I read the article and it appears to be sound. It's funny though, if you get a chance to read some of the answers, the people who disagree with you are attacking the messenger instead of actually trying to post something relevant to the discussion.

Yupchagee? "Zogby is in bed with the Islamofascists". C'mon is that the best you can do? And Kim, I'm not even going there because you are just plain out of touch with reality.

Answer 4

The troops have drawn different conclusions about fellow citizens back home. Asked why they think some Americans favor rapid U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq, 37% of troops serving there said those Americans are unpatriotic,

i did not say a word about you and patriotism --this comes from the link you posted

Answer 5

what in the hell is a zogby? How many soldiers did they ask? 4? On the other side of the coin, who wouldn't like to see troop withdrawl within a year. That would be great. But not before the job is done.

Answer 6

You're a Republican? You should be ashamed! You would think that if you really were a Republican, you'd know that this is not a "new" Zogby poll. It's from January 2006. Only 944 military personnel in Iraq were surveyed. That's less than 1%. This is nowhere near a proper representative sample. The poll is flawed and so are its conclusions.

Answer 7

Uno, you are able to examine the link under, it somewhat is on the Zogby sight---and in case you're delusional adequate to nevertheless have faith it somewhat is a lie then it fairly is your prerogative. "diverse branches had somewhat diverse sentiments on the question, the pollexhibits. whilst 89% of reserves and 80 two% of those in the national safeguard stated the U.S. could desire to bypass away Iraq interior a twelve months, fifty 8% of Marines think of so. Seven in ten of those in the widely used military theory the U.S. could desire to bypass away Iraq in the subsequent twelve months. apart from, approximately 3-quarters of those in national safeguard and Reserve contraptions want withdrawal interior six months, basically 15% of Marines felt that way. some million/2 of those in the widely used military prevalent withdrawal from Iraq in the subsequent six months" it somewhat is getting incredibly ridiculous, the troops desire to come returned living house, we could like them living house, the Iraqi government themselves have even made public their needs for our withdrawal. i think of how they gets around it, is to persist with the suggestions of human beings like Uno, basically deny it has any validity, and ignore relating to the plain, then they could sleep somewhat greater useful at nighttime.

Answer 8

The poll was not about wanting to come. Of course , all soldiers want to come home. What the troops said was they should be far enough along in their mission that we should be able to start bringing them home in a year.

Answer 9

You don't every conduct a war by taking polls of the troops while they are fighting.

Generals don't take polls when they decide on to fight a war.

Did Clinton conduct a poll when he sent the troops into Kosovo?

Answer 10

THAT POLL HAS A HUGE MARGIN OF ERROR

It wasn't scientifically conducted. I even heard they only asked the 7% of the troops who identified themselves as Liberals. A total fraud.