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If one can only supposedly go to heaven if they except Christ as THE savior, What happens to...

Infants that die prior to "Baptismal"

Jews (who happen to believe in the same God) that lead clean good Godly lives, just no Savior yet

Muslims (who happen to believe in the same God) that lead clean good Godly lives, just a different Savior

Buddhists’ (who happen to believe in a singular God if not the same God) that lead clean good Godly lives, just a different Savior

If God is the all powerful Being that were are being directed to believe, then logically God would get what God wants.

And if God wants all of us to be in heaven then; are those that do not believe in Jesus Christ really damned to an eternity in Hell?

Frankly I believe that if God is the one that split all the people of the world in to other nations, and races with the "Fall of the Tower of Babble", then it would only make logical sense that God would present God's self to different people in different ways.

2007-05-28 18:13:47 · 14 answers · asked by NateBHere 1 in Society & Culture Mythology & Folklore

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First, let me say that the answer to your question is too large to include here. The book of Romans in the New Testament is a book all about Christian theology, and the study of this book will answer most, if not all of your questions. I used William Barclay's book on Romans to help my study. I had much of the same questions, and felt his explanation to your questions were thorough and I was satisfied. I would suggest you read the book if you are serious about finding an answer. For a couple of specific examples, Romans chapters 9-11 talks about Israel's chosen status, loss of that status, and acceptance and rejection of Christ. Romans 14:2-4 talks about having tolerance of other people's point of view. And Romans 14:5-6 talks about having the same goal, but taking different roads to that goal.
I also want to point out that a large part of being a Christian is NOT JUDGING people. I have no right, as a Christian, to judge whether or not someone will go to heaven or hell. That's God's right, and his alone. (Romans 14:10-12) I do, however, know what I, personally, have to do in order for MY salvation. I also believe that I must find my salvation through the study of the BIBLE, and not through a denomination's 'rules' (the Catholic church has many). Romans 2:12-16 talks about "The unwritten law". William Barclay explains it thus: 1. We will be judged by what we had an opportunity to know. If people knew the law, they will be judged as people who knew the law. If they did not know the law, they will be judged as people who did not know the law (I feel that believe children and infants fall in this category). 2. Paul goes to say that even those who did not know the written law had an unwritten law within their hearts (instinct). Again, in order to answer this question thoroughly, you need to study the Bible.

2007-05-29 12:03:15 · answer #1 · answered by queenrakle 5 · 0 0

Infants have not reached the age of accountability. Baptism does not "save" anyone. It is an expression of public faith.

Jews, Muslims, Buddhist, and others who lead a "good" life shall be judged by their works which will not get them to heaven. "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" which is why Christ died on the cross. If there was one person who didn't sin, He would not have had to die. At the time of the judgement Jesus will tell them to go away from him as they knew him not.

God does want everyone to be in heaven but you have a choice of accepting his son. He can give you the oppourtunity but it is up to each person whether or not to accept it. (Why infants have not reached the age of accountability)

God wanted the people to spread out and populate the world. They did not do as he wished so he confused their language (Babel) so they moved apart. (He did not physically move the people, he created a situation that caused them to move)

In the end, God will get what he wants. Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire and believers will have eternal life with Him.

2007-05-29 00:53:53 · answer #2 · answered by momma 1 · 0 1

Baptism has nothing to do with it and it wont get you to Heaven. When someone reaches the age of accountability (when God convicts someone and they realize they are a sinner) if they do not accept Christ as their savior then they will go to Hell, even if they consider themselves "Christians". Jews are God's Chosen people, but because they rejected Jesus and put him on the cross the gentiles (everyone else pretty much) can be savved and go to Heaven. God might be the same to everyone, but in the Bible it says that the only way to Heaven is through the son (Jesus).

2007-05-28 18:49:08 · answer #3 · answered by D.C. 3 · 0 1

I can only provide here, the biblical answer for your query, which is found in the text of John 14:6 --- "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
Regarding "good, clean lives" : basic morality is NOT godliness (or holiness). People SHOULD be living "good clean lives out of respect for parents and society.
The case of infants is nowhere mentioned - it is not something that God has beleived man needs to know; however, gleanings on the matter are to be found at David's lament over his dead infant - 2 Samuel 12:23 - "But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me." David believed that he would see his infant in eternity.
Baptism is an act of man that is nowhere said to "save" a baby. [concluding chapter at www.theforgottenbible.org - about half-way through - discusses this matter of paedobaptism.]
With regard to your other queries: Those who worship God, MUST worship him in truth. Worship through false prophets, false preachers, popes, saints, statues - or anything else; is NOT the worship of the Lord God of the Bible.
That "God wants all to be in heaven" is covered extensively in the thesis at www.theforgottenbible.org - See the Appendix on "All". (All refers to all types of men; all races; ie. in the days of Jesus, it was beleived that the Jews only, had the true religion; the mission of the apostles was, to include Gentiles as well as Jews, hence "all" manner of men from throughout the earth. NOT every single soul that ever lived. (Which addresses your last query)

Yours with kind regards,
Philip Livingstone
www.theforgottenbible.org

2007-05-28 18:34:42 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Babies and children up to a certain age, regardless of what their parents believe, go to heaven. Baptism means that you commit the child to the Lord.

Jews who do not accept Jesus Christ do not go to heaven, same as anyone else.

Muslim's/ Buddhists god is NOT the true God. You can ONLY get to God through Jesus Christ, so those who believe otherwise will not go to heaven, even if they are "good".

God is just and good and we do not have any excuse not to believe that Jesus Christ is His son.

Truth is truth. In the end, it doesnt matter what we believe in, its what God said in His word that counts.

EVERY knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is LORD.

2007-05-28 23:48:22 · answer #5 · answered by ccc4jesus 4 · 0 1

As-Salaamu Alakium,

We beleive only GOD can save us as he si the judge on judgement day. Jesus (peace be upon him) is The SAviour in a different way, he will save us from the Anti-Christ when he returns.

10:99 And [thus it is:] had GOD so willed, all those who live on earth would surely have attained to faith, all of them: dost thou, then, think that thou couldst compel people to believe?

2:62 VERILY, those who have attained to faith [in this divine writ of Quran], as well as those who follow the Jewish faith, and the Christians, and the Sabians -all who believe in God and the Last Day and do righteous deeds-shall have their reward with their Sustainer; and no fear need they have, and neither shall they grieve.

GOD is the Creator and made the rules and gave us free choice so it is your choice to choose right from wrong which is your test for the afterlife. We do not bleive it to be for eternity anyway. GOD is just and fair and gave us warnings from 4 different books (Torah, Psalms, Gospel, Quran) and a ton of Prophets so the fair wanring is there. He will judge accordingly and all will get they fair judgement.

49:13 O men! Behold, We have created you all out of a male and a female, and have made you into nations and tribes, so that you might come to know one another. Verily, the noblest of you in the sight of God is the one who is most deeply conscious of Him. Behold, God is all-knowing, all-aware.

10:47 NOW every community has had an apostle; and only after their apostle has appeared [and delivered his message] is judgment passed on them, in all equity; and never are they wronged.

16:36 And indeed, within every community have We raised up an apostle [entrusted with this message]: "Worship God, and shun the powers of evil!" And among those [past generations] were people whom God graced with His guidance, just as there was among them [many a one] who inevitably fell prey to grievous error: go, then, about the earth and behold what happened in the end to those who gave the lie to the truth!

35:24 Verily, We have sent thee with the truth, as a bearer of glad tidings and a warner: for there never was any community but a warner has [lived and] passed away in its midst.

2007-05-30 12:02:38 · answer #6 · answered by ModestyWins 2 · 0 0

Jesus told us He is the Way to the Father in heaven. You just can't be a 'good' person, and worship the wrong god (i.e. Budha), or Allah, but without Jesus as His Son (i.e. Muslims), or Jews, who reject Jesus as the Savior who say he was basically a nice guy and a prophet, but don't listen to Jesus when he says He is the Savior.

Infants are innocent and I have great faith that if they die they arrive in heaven!

I believe God does come to people in different ways, i.e. spiritually, through a friend, through a Bible verse, through Revelation, but he does not come as others 'gods'.

2007-05-28 18:24:51 · answer #7 · answered by Puppy Lover 4 · 1 1

Perhaps, to use the Christian name, Heaven is split into an infinite multitude of chambers with no doors, but an open roof. Then none would know others were in heaven, but they could be visited by their God or Gods.

2007-05-28 18:23:12 · answer #8 · answered by Terry 7 · 0 0

Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6) Jesus is the only way to heaven. God requires a perfect blood sacrifice to cover our sins and he provided one for us with Jesus.

If you do not choose to take God’s free gift, you will go to hell when you die because you have died in your sins.

“Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him." (John 3:36)


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2007-05-28 20:29:20 · answer #9 · answered by Dwayne 3 · 0 1

Definitons: God - perfection. Heaven - in God's presence. Sin- imperfection. We are imperfect. Wecannot live in God's presence cos He is perfect.(think matter/antimatter.) The blood of Jesus is a barrier between the 2 so that we can exist. If U don't accept Jesus as ur Saviour, that barrier is not 4 U and U will die. God is fair & just, and will deal woth those who have not heard about him in that way. Hope this helps.

2007-05-29 04:26:39 · answer #10 · answered by SKCave 7 · 0 2

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