Liberals do you HONESTLY?

Question

Think that Iraq was a peaceful, American loving, Terrorist free Country??? Do you people actually think that Saddam didn't have it out for America? Do you REALLY believe that there Were absolutely 100% NO terrorist there before we invaded?

dumdum: You sure do sound --- well your name says it all...

smith: It's not an assumption when you hear Liberals all the time saying that there weren't any terrorist in Iraq before we invaded... It's not an assumptions when you hear them constantly saying that Iraq posed no threat to the U.S.... What's one supposed to assume when Liberals make comments like that daily??

Answer 1

Wyco, yes they do. I have no idea what they are on either! They also believe that killing babies is moral, and that everyone with seven kids with seven different dads deserves to be on welfare. BWAHAHAHA!

Answer 2

Iraq, before being invaded by the US, was a military dictature governed by an ignominious guy. He didn't care much of his people.
I am quite sure that there were Islamic activists in Iraq before the US invasion, but I am also sure that there are more now, as the absence of a sharp government such as Saddam's one may have allowed them to be stronger in the country.

The point is : why should America have invaded that country if there was no sign of aggression? Why should the Americans decide who must rule in other countries ? Is it a crime not to be "American loving"? I know these questions may shock you, but consider them a few minutes; if loving or not the US is an argument for waging a war, should the Muslim countries attack the US as long as the US population is not "Muslim loving"?

You can be in favour or against a war, but don't be too much in favour or against it without considering the weigh of such a position. I consider that that war has been a mistake considering that is hasn't help much in the struggle against the Islamic influence in the East. The ideology which stemmed from the war is a fool one. It analyses the conflict as a Civilisation shock. That idea is one-sided and doesn't take into account that some Muslim people are against the Islamic armed groups. Above all, it doesn't see the differences between ethnic groups is the East, as any "Muslim" is a potential ennemy. By having a simplistic view of the conflict, one may fall into grave errors. Sometimes, the muscles aren't the best way. They rarely are in politics. How much did the American government have spent in that war? Did you know that the US and Europe spend less than one percent of their GDP to help developing countries? Wouldn't it have been better for the country or the entire world to differently use the monney of the war?

I am French and live in Buenos Aires (Argentina). Excuse me if I made language errors.

Answer 3

You really need to do some reading reading and research on your own and stop relying on FOX for all of your so called news. Saddam was not any type of threat to the US. There has never been any link shown between Saddam (Iraq) and any terrorist groups. Does that mean there were no terrorists groups what so ever in Iraq? Hard to say but if there were they were small and of no threat to the US. There were no WMDs just like we were told before invading. Did Saddam 'love' the US? No, what country in the middle east does? And that includes our so-called friend Saudi Arabia, which by the way is where those responsible for 911 came from, it is where the money came from to fund 911, and it is where a large number of terrorists groups are based. So where is the invasion of Saudi Arabia?

Answer 4

Who ever claimed that Iraq was terrorist free? Who ever claimed that the Iraqis were "American loving"? Having it "out for America" is a far cry from having the means to do something about it. If we attacked every country under the rule of a dictator who hated America, we'd be at war with 27 countries. There WERE terrorists in Iraq before we invaded, terrorists that posed no threat to us. It's a documented fact that extreme Islamic fundamentalists live in virtually every country on the planet--including America. Perhaps we should declare war on the entire world?

Answer 5

No. But I don't believe Iraq was an immediate threat to us or had any involvement in 9/11. No WMDs were found and we went after a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, which is what the War on Terror should have been about. We used our men and women for unnecessary reasons, put them in harms way when it wasn't absolutely necessary, and caused thousands of both Iraqi civilians and American troops to die. I'm sure there were terrorists before we invaded, but there are still terrorists now, so we obviously didn't help that problem. Just because a country doesn't love America doesn't mean we need to invade them.

Answer 6

1) Iraq isn't nor wasn't an American loving country. Doesn't give the US the right to invade them, when they were willing to open their country to any investigators to prove they didn't have WMD

2) A lot of people don't like the US... who cares?

3) Do you know what a terrorist is? There are terrorists everywhere in the world, including some acts the US Government has done.

They should take computers away from idiots like yourself... and no i'm not a liberal, i'm just a person who thinks for himself and doesn't listen to all Bush's BULLSH.IT!

Answer 7

I think this question was presented by a conservative paranoid idiot that can't get over loosing the last election, and now has nothing better to occupy her time other than liberal bashing.
If you would
take the time to read and understand the reasons for invading Iraq, not one of the things you mentioned were involved in that decision.
We didn't go there to stop terrorism, because that was not a problem there until our illegal invasion.
Now if Saddam had it in for America, he was about twenty years from doing anything about it, and maybe longer.
For many years Saddam was on our side, as evidenced by the amount of military aid and money we sent to him, and it was only when he tried to defend his borders against Kuwait did we get on the other side with him.
True, he sent scud missles into Israel during the gulf war, but that was in direct retaliation for Israels bombing of his nuclear power plant in 1982 which was not justified.
This war with Iraq was a personal war of Bush's, based on lies of WMD's, and when they were not found, we should have left.
By the way, where is your proof that there were terrorist there?

Answer 8

The premise of your question is off base.

For starters if you knew your history which apparently you don't, Saddam used to be an ally of the US and the WMDs that he USED to have were provided to him by us to fight the Iranians in a proxy war against the Russians after our botched attempt at putting the Shah in power.

There's no doubt that Saddam was a brutal dictator, everyone agrees with that. However, he ran a secular dictatorship and didn't trust any jihadist movements including Al Queada. You can't ignore or dismiss the fact that thanks to our misguided intervention, we created the incubator for terrorist to descend on Iraq to add to the problems already there. Even so, point of fact, the great majority of the violence is sectarian with a small number of Al Queada, which, incidentally, not even the Iraqi insurgents want around.

I suppose Rush and Fox forget to mention those facts as they continue their incessant cheer leading.

Please stop simplifying everything into concepts of good vs. evil, or terror vs. freedom because both are flawed arguments.

Reading is Fundamental.

Why don't you frame your debate based on facts. You might have some credibility that way.

Regards.

Answer 9

Wyco - is your understanding of these issues really so weak you have to pull out these strawmen arguments in order to have something to contribute?
I don't know any liberals who has praised Iraq and Saddam (Ronald Reagan was the champion of that).
So given that by your own argument it was not peaceful, America loving or terrorist free (you are right - Al Quaeda did have a training camp in Iraq - in the no fly zone for which we, not Saddam, were responsible) 4 years ago. And today it is not peaceful, America loving or terrorist free and does not look like becoming so.
So this administration lied to us, started an illegal war, sent 3400 brave young Americans to thier deaths (not to mention 100,000 Iraqis) and spent 400bn dollars all in order to achieve nothing.
You gotta be proud of these guys don't you?

Answer 10

This isnt a black and white issue honey. The world we live in is extremely complex, and the Middle East especially so.

Was Saddam going to attack us? No. Theres no chance in hell Saddam wouldve attacked us. He was a smart man, and doing that wouldve been suicide and he knew it. He was a dictator yes, but dictators arent stupid. They get to power and they want to stay there. And doing things against the US gets them removed from power. He knew that full well.

As for the terrorist questions. There were some tiny terrorist groups yes. Ansar Al Islam was one, but they had barely a couple hundred people and controlled a few mountains in the north of Iraq. They were by no means a threat to us by any stretch of the imagination. There was not one single terrorist group in Iraq that was a threat to us.

You can say all you want about Saddam. But please do try and be fair. He did some bad things, but he also did a number of good things. He kept the Sunnis and the Shiites from murdering each other like they are now. He was what they call a secular Muslim. He didnt like the Sharia laws and didnt approve of them in his country. Women didnt have to wear burkas, women could go to college, people could listen to music, etc etc. Now? Hardly any women go to college because if they do, they get hunted down, raped and killed by the Shiite death squads. Same thing if they dont wear the burka. The death squads go after them and do horrible things.

Was Saddam the best thing since sliced bread? No. Was the most evil thing to ever hit the planet? No.

Again, this isnt black and white. Please try to keep some perspective.

It was a horrible mistake to go into Iraq. In just a few years 64,000 civilians have been killed. Thats far more than Saddam ever killed. Is the lesser of two evils still evil? Yes. But its important to keep some perspective.

The real question is this; who died and made us world police? What right do we have to invade countries who's leaders dont like us? If your neighbor doesnt like you do you go over and set his house on fire and shoot him when he runs out?? No right? So why would that be OK on an international level?

Answer 11

I am no liberal just someone who thinks before they talk so as not to spew crap. Do you think that America is a peaceful, Iraq loving, terrorist free country? Do you think George Bush didn't have it out for Iraq before he invaded Iraq? Do you really believe that there were more terrorists in Iraq before the US invasion? It is people like you that are giving America a very bad name. You do no turn countries that do not like you into countries that do by making up lies about them to justify invading them. Common sense.