Are Security Guards/ bouncers/ cops too corrupt? Can they get away with anything?

Question

Hi I have been working security nearly 3 years now.
During that time I have had to hold back security guards from recklessly assaulting members of the public many many times.
Recently I went to a club I used to work at after school for a quite drink...
About 6 racists tried to fight us when we were in there because me and my friend were ethnic...
When we defended ourselves all the security guards started fighting with me and my friend at one point one security guard was holding me while the other was trying to knock me out while the members of the public were still trying to fight us as well...
The club owners erased the tapes and the police decided there was inconclusive evidence to charge anyone.
The owners got all smart and cocky when I tried to make a complaint.
So what I am thinking is either firebomb the hotel or just beat the bouncers heads in with a baseball bat.
Either way they destroyed my life by sending me to hospital with concussion and the amount of school I have missed,

I also might mention I study engineering and science, this was during orientation week at the schools local pub that i used to work at for about 6 months to pay my bills while in school.
I am not a thug and not a violent person, but I think crime should be dealt with accordingly that is why I used to be a security guard until I quite because the people I work for and the people I work with run rampant with corruption and senseless violence without cause.

I might also mention I live in Australia, if guns were more common over here a situation like that wouldn't occur.

Also why I mentioned firebombing the hotel is as I worked there previously I know the management get off on seeing people dragged off and beaten up.
They encourage so much violence even though it is the local uni pub and people are very respectable in this area, it has gotten itself a bad name around the local community for the way they treat patrons.
I know the owner is good friends with the police.
Normally there is no trouble there but it was orientation week and some rednecks wanted to fight with some ethnics and we were wrong place wrong time.
As for the bouncers they were just violent hungry and they just fought us because there was only two of us and probably also because we are ethnic.

Answer 1

So your answer is to fight violence with violence, dosent make you any better than them.

Firebombing a hotel could have serious consequences not to mention the potential loss of life beside your intended targets.

Such and act or an attack with a baseball bat is premeditated murder.

You will be missing more than school if you are caught and convicted of this offence should you carry it out.

I got a few beatings while in the army, even from comrades, sure it felt humiliating, sure I wanted revenge, but I thought keeping a clean service record was better as I was making the military a career, I stuck it out and got my pension at 37 then retired.

You only get one life make the best off it.

Answer 2

This society tends to give cops the benefit of the doubt when they use weapons. "They are putting their lives on the line out there for us" is the usual justification for this.

People don't seem to understand that when someone is trusted by society to bear and USE weapons, they should not be held to a looser standard than the general public, but to a higher standard.

How many times have you read about a police shooting of an unarmed person where the cop says the "suspect" made a "furtive movement" that they interpreted as going for a gun? This has happened more times than I can count where I live, and I don't even live in a big city.
Could a member of the general public shoot an unarmed person down for making a "furtive gesture" with their hand, and not go to prison? Of course not. It's not judicious use of deadly force - unless you're a cop.
Again, cops should be held to a HIGHER standard than everyone else, not given more leeway. They are trusted to bear and use weapons all the time, and much more can and does go wrong.


Dude, don't firebomb the place, you'll do many years for arson if not manslaughter. You may not have any recourse through criminal law, but you have a much better chance with a federal civil-rights lawsuit. If you're ethnic there may be lawyers who will gladly help you out (there is money in it for them as well as you)
Mention to your lawyer that the club destroyed the tapes. That will go a long way in a lawsuit where all you need is a preponderance of evidence.

Answer 3

Most of them feel as if they are invincible, but they are not.

Bouncers get arrested and get sued A LOT. I know of one who had every right to hit someone(as they were assaulting someone else in the bar) and then he almost got arrested for it.

Also, with the police, they think that they are above the law alot of times. And that is fine, if they use that in a respectable, helpful way. But if they do not, and they harrass people for no reason, like one officer did to me at the college I attend(I think he was just mad that he only gets to patrol one square mile, and will never be a real police officer), then you can always go to your local IAD(Internal Affairs Division) They actually care about keeping the police clean and in check. Sometimes though, they could be corrupt, so then you would go to your local SBI or FBI office and let them know. Then the FBI will look into it, and may end up auditing the police department and cleaning it up.

Answer 4

This is a military first police-state country now days. Anyone with a semblance of authority is revered. Unless an incident is video taped all police and even bouncers are essentially above the law.

This is what a totalitarian society looks like people. Hope you're enjoying it. Land of the free my ass.

Answer 5

File a case of assault against abusive security guards, policemen and bouncers. They must be charged in court so that they will no longer abuse people particularly those belonging to ethnic groups. They mut not be above the law.

Answer 6

You had a sad story right up to the point where you mentioned firebombing or beating heads in. Then you turned into a common thug criminal who does not deserve a response.

Answer 7

Violence should not begat violence. It does nothing in your struggle if you hate them as much as they hate you. Next time avoid locations or businesses that cater to those who hate or who are intolerant. Tell your friends to also boycott those businesses, and then they can tell their friends, and so on. Only then will you have an economic impact on them. As for bombing, why would you want to harm someone that had nothing to do with the issue?

Answer 8

you are in the united states -- i am sure you learned "the land of the free" is a malicious lie a long time ago.

this country was built on hatred and intolerance and subjugating people from non western european ethnicities. if you have been here 15 minutes you learned that.

you are allowed to get ahead if you sell your soul like albie gonzales and condi rice.

Answer 9

yep. that's it in a nutshell. i worked NYC in the 80s as a cop and it was a free for all. they even taught us in the academy which side of the phone book to hit with that wouldn't leave marks. nice. i quit pretty soon after my life was threatened if i told on them. i felt like serpico...female version. they drank, got stoned, beat the snot out of people and got drivers drunk to make the arrests stick better and that was all in a day's work... and all in uniform.

Answer 10

they think they can do wat eva dey want