Ohio smoking ban?

Question

Please sound off ,, my wife ,, bartender went from making 150 per night to like 25 ,, and they said there would be no difference! If they cared about cigarettes being harmful make them illegal, but no they keep them legal since they bring in SO MUCH TAX MONEY! what is happing to our freedom?

again people this is not a health issue! put it like this if you don't like a smoke don't go to a bar that allows smoking! I understand a place that sells food , but to just a plain drink and smokers bar,, no no , here is the sad truth,, the persons that passed this law * the voters are non smokers,, this is one reason it is important for all to vote ,, ! I just feel bad for all the money being lost ! I already know that fights , and other problems are starting outside due to this!

Answer 1

Have you heard that stupid commercial about the smoking ban in Ohio?!?! "This is a bar before the smoking ban. Now the same bar after the smoking ban. Hear the difference? That's because there is none." STUPID commercial!!! A few bars around here are still letting people smoke. Does the Government not have anything better to be concerned about in Ohio...Since all of our educational institutes are doing just so well!!!! (SARCASM)

Answer 2

A business is NOT public place. They can exclude anyone they want. If you want to make a business a public place, then have the goverment buy them (see the Fifth Amendment). While I agree that smoking should be banned in places you have to go, Court, Jail, DMV, or is owned by the public, Library, etc. then they should be non-smoking. But private business should be exempt. Because I believe that this is a voilation of the Fifth Amendment, when a law is passed that would require private business to be non-smoking. Here they take private property rights away and force him or her to run their business a certain way. I say the 5th because they are taking away something of value; their right to run their business a certain way and letting the public decide how it should be done in doing so they are taking their property for public use and not giving them just compensation. Imagine if the owner had decided to make his business non-smoking, yet the government forced him to have a smoking section. Would they pay for the damage the smoker's cause? Cover losses when his non-smokers refused to go to his business? And if enough non-smokers stay way and he goes bankrupt would they pay his debts? I don't think so. Now if a business decided to have smoking and is willing to pay for the damage to their business, carpets, cleaning etc, why shouldn't they? Then if people don't come and they go bankrupt, then it’s because of their own decision. Same thing if the business was non-smoking. Now the non-smoking crowd is saying that you should have a smoke free work place. What if I don't want one? I looked around and guess what no-body here had a gun to their head and was being forced to work here, if you work in a business and they allow smoking and you don't like if find a different job. Don't say it the only job out there, just look at the unemployment rate. Ok I'm starting to go off on a rant here, and I think I made my point, for the record I don't smoke and don't like it. I think it's a silly waste of money, but you want too, go ahead light up.

Answer 3

This is without a doubt the most assinine law I've ever seen. I can hardly wait until someone steps up and challenges it in the courts. I know it'll take forever to get reversed, but we can hope, can't we?

Problem was, when this thing was passed, the opposition to it was too quiet. It seemed inevitable that some form of smoking ban was gonna happen, so the mindless sheep voted en masse without even knowing what they were voting for.

Get this: I drive for a courier service as an independent contractor/owner operator. The laws of Ohio make it very clear that I am NOT an employee of the company I contract with. I get none of the benefits and/or protections of being an employee. Yet this stupid smoking ban specifically says that "employee" includes owner operators. And thus I supposedly am not permitted to smoke in my "company vehicle", which is, incidentally, NOT a company vehicle, but my own personal vehicle. This madness surely would not stand up in court under scrutiny. I've thought about filing a lawsuit myself, but I have neither the time or money to pursue it. Wish I did.

Answer 4

Well this is what happens when you have democrats in control of the government at any level. Ex: City, County, State, and Federal. It seems to that democrats want to cite studies on smoking and second hand smoke but fail to let the people know that there has never been a study that conclusively proves that second hand smoke is harmful to anyone. Smoking and smokers have been on the chopping block since judges placed judgments aginst cigarette manufactures. The judges never asked the plaintiffs if they could read the surgeons generals warning on the side of a pack. Know for the law passed in Ohio, the same type of law has been passed in many states to try and control business even more. The establishments owner should be able to decide whether they want to allow smoking or not. This also puts the owners responsible to reap the consequences or benefits of their decisions. Instead the government wants to make these decisions for the owner by putting out false info on advertising their campaigns on passing these ridiculous laws. This great land we call the USA was once the freest nation on the planet. Now we have a government that wants to transform this nation into a nanny state. They want to make sure that no one could possibly be in any danger by the choices they make on their own accord. They are trying to take all personal responsibility out of the human life and install the idea that they know best and just listen to them. We must be responsible for our own decisions and STOP looking at the government every time we need help. Like Ronald Ragen said "It is not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country." You hit the nail on the head with banning cigarettes. This will never happen because of the tax revenue they bring in. Good luck to your wife with her major cut in pay and the only people she has to thank is the socialist dems that lied to the people of Ohio and got them to vote this law into effect.

Answer 5

I have never smoked and try to avoid areas where others do. I also opposed and still oppose smoking bans in ANY private business. I don't see this as a health issue. It is a property rights issue. If people don't want to be around smoke, they don't have to go to places that allow smoke. If enough people want to avoid smoke, the businesses will notice though the cash register.

To those who say smokers don't have the right to smoke where others breath: YOU don't have the right to enter MY property if you don't want to be exposed to whatever I am doing.

Answer 6

If they made them illegal all that would happen is a blackmarket like with alcohol would come up. They learned the lesson with alcohol and there's no way there going to ban it like they tried and endup having to reverse with alcohol.

Sorry, but they're looking after the rights of everyone that doesn't smoke. A person can smoke all he wants, but he has no right to make others breath it.

You might believe murder is ok, but the law has said no since you have no right to effect others without their consent. ie I'm not trying to say smokers are murders, just using an example of when a right to do something is prhobited because of the right for a person to not have something done to them that they don't agree to.

This is the logic I also use to support assited suicide, the person having it happen to them, is willing and wanting, then a person should be able to help if for nothing else to make sure they don't end in a lot of pain and bit dead.

Answer 7

I would prefer that all restaurants be non-smoking but I think if it is a separate closed room then the owners of the establishment should have the option. I do not think that bars should be smoke-free, I know a lot of businesses that closed due to this.

Answer 8

Relax Shawn, once the initial shock fades they will be back at the bars and drinking more then ever before; if they can't smoke they got to do something with their mouths. And besides your wife's health will be better since she isn't breathing all that smoke. She will smell better too!

Answer 9

People will pollute the world with their cars and anything else they can think. People don't care. Get within 10 feet of these same people with a cigarette and you're viewed like a child molester. Doesn't it make you sick how phony people are?

Answer 10

i'm a smoker and i think it's bullsh*t.....i'm sorry but you don't see someone who smoked to many cigarettes go out and get behind the wheel of a car and kill someone...drunk drivers do THAT!!!! they should make ALCOHOL illegal!!!