How are you Islamic apologists going to explain this?

Question

So you think this is the religion of tolerance and peace? THen explain this article:

Christian arrested for visiting Mecca
When Saudi authorities discovered a man working in Mecca was a Christian, they immediately arrested him, highlighting the desert kingdom's law barring non-Muslims from the Islamic holy city.

"The Grand Mosque and the holy city are forbidden to non-Muslims," said Col. Suhail Matrafi, head of the department in charge of Expatriates Affairs in Mecca. "The new fingerprints system is very helpful and will help us a lot to discover the identity of a lot of criminals and overstayers." (non Muslims to, eh?)
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You people like to say that its only a small minority that are intolerant. Obviously this is a majority law made by the Islamic people of this country. Or this must be one flippin' HUGE minority, hey?


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55884

Last time I checked when it came to churches anyone of ANY religion is allowed in. I've seen Muslims, Buddhists, Athiests, Hindus in churches before but they weren't being dragged out.

Monkey God. You are saying its the worshippers and not Islam. So by this you mean you know more about Islam than the majority of Saudi Arabia!!! (since you say they are getting Islam wrong)

Answer 1

I think you're confusing the worshippers with the religion. You can't say the religion itself is not based on tolerance and peace through the actions of mere mortals.

Look at all the harm that has been wrought in the name of Christianity in the past (and present). Is Christianity not supposed to be a religion of love? Do fundamentalist worshippers change the nature of the religion?

P.S.
Asker,

I am saying that the worshippers of our age are pretty far removed from the prophets of times past. I'm not claiming to know Islam. All I'm saying is you can't speak about the behavior of a sect of humanity as if it represents the spirit of a system of worship.

Answer 2

First off I cannot apoplogize to you for a double standard; that's what we are talking about isn't it? A double standard. Without reading any of the replies I can safely assume you have been told Mecca is a sacred city; taking it from there I will go on to say that most Muslims and or Arab Muslims believe that as long as you did not claim churches are sacred to Christians only they can step in any time that they please, but you step into Mecca we got you, not polite and not pleasant but there you have it.
Those officers were only following an age old law that is all they were doing. Anyways you know the rest of the story.

Answer 3

It makes you scratch your head but various religions have their quirks, quarks and rules. For the record there is a Coptic Christian Church in a village in Ethiopia (shown on Discovery Channel) that supposedly has that Arc Of The Covenant . Other than the patriarch there entrance is forbidden to all and there are guards armed with Kalashnikovs who'll shoot you down like a dog if you try to go in. The Roman Catholic Church does not want and discourages other non Catholics from recieving communion and last I heard the Mormons have rules regarding visting their churches. In ancient times you were forbidden to enter the section of the Jewish temple behind the veil on the pain of death.

Some regulations and exclusion rules do negate a whole religion in my opinion.

Regards,

Michael Kelly

Answer 4

Moderate Isamic people are the true beneficiaries of all the uncalled for fanatic actions by a handful of Muslims. Moderates maitain golden silence over all questionable actions like terrorism, drug trafficing, smuggling, murders, wars etc. by fellow Muslims. And, so far, none of the political leaders of the world has had any comment on this issue. The incidence highlighted by you is just a drop of the ocean.

Answer 5

Non-muslims are allowed to work and live in Saudi Arabia. They're just not permitted to enter the Grand Masjid in Mecca because it's a holy place for Muslims where they come to worship Allah. It isn't something personal. Muslims want to keep the masjid to themselves and for the worship of Allah and not make it a public attraction.

Answer 6

Well, I say we whip their arses. They are recruiting out of the prisons now. Do the new Black Muslims think those crazy bombers are going to spare them because they are brothers? I am not a hater, just a Christian with a few brain cells left.

Answer 7

Yes, I'm sure the people of Saudia Arabia all had a say in this law, because it's such a model of democracy.

Anyway, what's your point? Do you want us to start hating muslims?

Answer 8

so you are mad because muslims in their homeland are intolerant to other religions. have you looked around? kinda like the nutbag fundamentalist christians in this country? don't hate the player, hate the game.

Answer 9

If the rules say you can't go, you don't go. So?