impressionism, realism, and surrealism, all part of modernism?

Question

can the art movements impressionism, realism, and surrealism, all be regarded as part of the modernist movement- or should modern'ism' only be thought of as a seperate issue?

update - it seems modernism is a movement thats definately not entirely related to art/music. many websites give a definition through just religion and nothing else, although i may be getting mixed up if this 'modernism' is entirely unrelated?

Answer 1

i personally think it is separate, as surely there was works of art that is from the 1400 and 1600s that sould be classed as realism

Answer 2

I would say you can have this either way depending entirely on which art/artist you are looking at.In most cases Modernism is thought of seperately,but you could just as easily have cubist modernism,modern impressionism,real modernism,modern realists etc etc etc."The modernist movement" does include a lot of art and artists that could be subdivided into any combination. I would say that modernism started as a result of a rebellion to conventionalism in the western galleries of the world,but i am also aware of a major shift in eastern block countries too.Look at the Industrial nature of some,the flowery scenic nature of others,look at minimalists,surealists etc etc,Not one of them(probably) gave the genre title to their form of Artworks.It is generally after a few works are criticised heavily in the press that words are found for styles/types/methods.Modernism is quite an all encompassing term.But to some purists it would be totally seperate and defined.Its best as an artist to reject a single style or genre especially when it will type cast.Im personally in favour of trying as many different techniques and styles as you can and using whichever achieves the desired results.i work in clay,sculpting,throwing on wheel,handbuilding,glazing both dip and spray and decorative painting with under glazes.I paint in oils and acrylics and use many styles,both modern and impressionistic and even surreal depending on mood subject and desired effects.Photographers do not (generally)stick to one fstop or shutter speed or film speed or even keep their images as they were in shot.(especially with digital image programmes)So today we can have it all ways and why not!The dead "modernist" artists would have loved todays freedoms.Waffled there a bit.

Answer 3

Yes they can be considered part of modernism in its broad sense and they usually are. But in some cases modernism is limited to 20th century avant gardes so only Surrealism is included. In an even strictier definition modernism may imply only the Bauhaus - Cubism kind of abstract art and then even surrealism may be left out. but the most common practice today is to include them all.

Answer 4

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