How do gays and lesbians relate to the word of God as it condones the practice of homosexuality?

Question

Should we accept them as people needing change or people with a right to live their lives and still be my brother/sister in Christ, or is homosexuality a new religion that some Christian leaders are promoting.
This question is not an attack on anyone but seek to source knowledge and understanding of the queer clan.

Answer 1

because many people of the church attack them and there life style

Answer 2

I am a heterosexual man who would far rather be considered part of the "queer clan" than as part of any religious group that chooses to "accept homosexuals as people needing change". Whether or not religious groups accepth them as people with the right to live their own lives as they are, that is exactly what our gay brothers and sisters can, should and will do. They are people just like you are who are living their lives as they were born to live them.

Homosexuality is not a belief system, an aberration or "new religion". Neither is heterosexuality. Both are natural sexual orientations. You can read all you want in the Old Testement and the Letters of Paul condemning homosexuality. If you choose to spend some time in the Gospels you will see that Christ is not reported to have enen mentioned homosexuality. However, none of this makes as bold a statement concerning "the word of Gaod as it conones the practice of homosexuality" as does the simple fact that people (as in all species) are born both gay and straight. Doesn't your religious belief hold that God created the natural world around us? So, which will you believe? Either the writersof the OT books, and Paul were addressing this issue as best as they understood, and they were wrong, or the God you believe in made a mistake and your God is wrong.

Answer 3

Some GLBT people do and others don't relate to it, just as heterosexuals do and don't. There are other religions too, or did you overlook that fact?

GLBT people don't need change, unless they're after buying a bus or car park ticket, thanks.

And if you believe in much of the outdated nonsense of the bible, like not wearing mixed fabrics, as Quirky and Lui pointed out, then you'll realise that the writings were - perhaps- most related to people's lives in those times times. BTW, how many Christians do wear mixed fabrics, as expressly forbidden? I'd guess at near 100%. Now this sure fire way of getting condemnation is something that is changeable- unlike sexuality - so you could put your efforts in that direction.

To this end, I suggest the 'Fashion & Accessories' section, in Answer's Beauty and Style. Otherwise, pop along to Religion, and start asking people there why they're not following the word of God etc. Otherwise, you could get out onto the streets and offer free fabrics to people, to replace their fabric mixes. Don't harrass them though, but ask questions like yours above and you're certain to get a warm welcome (by some).

Otherwise, there is that age old message - 'Judge not, lest ye be not judged'. If there is a Christian God, all accounts seem to indicate that he/she was the one to judge others. So this leaves you to relate to others as your brothers and sisters, whatever love they prefer.

BTW, there is no 'queer clan' just millions of individuals around the world who happen to have a different sexuality to you.

Good luck! Rob

Answer 4

Contrary to what many Christians claim, being gay is not often the choice of the gay person. I'm sure some people may be "in the middle," if you will, and could choose either or be bisexual. However, all the gay people I know (around 5 or 6 people) realized they were gay and had no choice in the matter at a very early age. Many of them had severe issues with it and one of them tried to commit suicide because of it.

But many Christian leaders will not face this truth because that means God made this happen. And if that's true, then there's a contradiction, since the bible specifically forbids it. See the problem? The Bible also tells us not to eat shellfish, but people don't have a problem dismissing that one...

My wife's cousin is gay and a devout Catholic and churchgoer. All that matters is that you try to live as Christ lived his life and develop a personal rapport with God. Organized religion is not actually necessary for that.

Most people whom I know that believe in God and go to church realize that the religious texts cannot be taken too literally. They were written by men from tales handed down by word-of-mouth thousands of years ago. The texts have gone through countless translations, editting, and culling of books and texts thought to be unsavory at any given time in history. Heck, King James had the Bible rewritten into poetic verse to make it sound better. So I imagine a gay person, knowing that they were created gay, will simply accept that organized religion and their texts are not necessarily THE word on how to worship and relate to the creator.

Answer 5

As a Christian, I believe churches should accept homosexual individuals.
Not because homosexuality is right in God's eyes, but because they may not even know it isn't right to be that way and if they're going to change, you can try to help them.
So, to answer you question, I think we should accept them as people needing change. I don't think people think of homosexuality as a new religion, but rather as a different lifestlye (which some, or most, think is perfectly okay. It's not, though! If God wanted people to be gay or lesbian, he would have made it so that a man + a man or a woman + a woman could have babies together. Why do you think only a man + woman can have a baby together? Because that's the way God wants it so that's how he made it.)
I've heard from some places that homosexual people are born that way, and in other places that they are not and that only their surroundings and themselves make them that way.
I don't know the truth in that matter, unfortunately, and I probably never will. (Anyone know if it says anything about homosexual people being born that way in the Bible?)
Let me know if you have any more questions, I'll do my best to answer.
We need to pray for them, along with everyone else, including ourselves! Yes, we are all sinners and I'm not saying being homosexual is worse is better than murdering or stealing. I am saying, though, that if some is a homosexual and is a follower of Christ, what kind of example are they setting for others?


I hope that helped you!

Answer 6

Many of us refuse to accept that the Christian god is anti-gay. Personally, I know that Biblical writers were anti-gay and since I know myself and what being gay is about better than some idiots who lived thousands of years ago did I can say with confidence that the Bible is a FRAUD.

I used to buy into the idea that I could be gay and Christian at the same time. I now know I was only harming myself. The Bible is just mythology and to base my life upon it is a mental disease within itself. I can't tell you how many gay people I've known that have a really hard time reconciling that Biblical crap with who they are as a person.

Answer 7

True devout Christians will find forgiveness and understanding through the word of God. True Christians love all people for who they are, and realize God is the only one who can really forgive us. Them "condoning" it should be irrelevant.

The problem lies with the Christians who think their interpretation of the bible is the only correct one. Thus, creating their hypocrisy. Because they do not agree with homosexuality, they insist on beating the bible with certain quotes to support their opinions.

Real Christians are not so blind. Yes, God said "man shall not lie with a man like he lies with a woman." But, in the same respect, God also said that [in paraphrase] "we shall be judged as how we judge others" and Jesus preached love, acceptance, and forgiveness to all his followers.

I hope this helps.

Answer 8

Easy, I don't relate to the word of god. I don't believe he exists. I don't believe the tosh in the bible. I don't believe in fairy's at the bottom of my garden. I do believe someone called Jesus did live and was a very nice man who NEVER ever spoke out against homosexuality.
I have a really hard time understanding how supposedly intelligent people can believe (what to me) is the utter nonsense written in the bible.

Answer 9

I think the word you wanted is condemns, not condones.

But the word of God also condemns premarital sex, adultery, eating shellfish, and wearing clothes of 2 different fabrics. Mind you Christians are supposed to follow Christ, as he is their new messenger, and he never said anything about it.

There is no gay religion, we're just people, the division nowadays is caused by heterosexuals and fundamentalists, not by homosexuals.

Answer 10

After studying the Bible, I don't see that homosexuality is any different from any other sin. It's all an abomination, and look at all the straight people who live together before marriage and all the pregnant teens and all the teens who are out there doing things that are forbidden in the Bible. Everyone sins. Some sins are just more out in the open than others. I guess the question is, how do ANY of us relate to the word of God? Maybe it's because we're saved by God's grace. We're all in the same boat, no matter who we are or what our particular sin might be. Or at least that's how I see it.

Answer 11

Do you accept others who call themselves Christians yet do not follow the same exact interpretation of the Bible that You follow(as in different denominations and sects)? You should, as in the fact that no interpretation can be proven to be the "correct" one. Whether or not one's interpretation of your religious text is the "correct" interpretation is a matter of personal belief and the fact that when it comes down to it, it is just as likely that your interpretation may be "wrong" as it is that theirs may be. That very reason is the entire basis of your Christ's words telling others "Let he who is without Sin cast the First stone", all are guilty of "sin", especially those that assume they understand the texts properly are as guilty as any other.
In condemning others, you condemn yourselves.


Even though it isn't my religion, I understand that much.........