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Since the money that men make is by far more likely to be spent on, or by, women than the money that women make is spent on, or by, men shouldn't the whole basis for this so called unequal pay propaganda be seen for what it really is, just the usual feminist entitlement ideology ?

Oh wait I forgot for a second, the vast majority of feminists don't have a man to spend money on them. Well anyway the question still stands.

2007-05-24 17:38:20 · 9 answers · asked by dean g 3 in Social Science Gender Studies

Juniper, thanks for the input, but I was comparing the two, not viewing them independently, it is a dichotomy. Even by your own admission you stated that a man, your hubby, spends his money on you, and the kids, NOT YOUR money spent on him, and the kids. That was my point. This situation is ,by far, the norm.

I understand what you are explaining about the view of the woman who asks for the raise as being seen as B*tchy etc but I completely disagree. Only a B*tchy woman would be seen as B*tchy. Asking for a raise is just asking for a raise, unless she is insisting she get paid the same as someone else, a man, who does more work, and does "MEN'S" work, than she does. Then she would definitely be B*tchy.

2007-05-24 18:11:41 · update #1

Inquisitive, you said:

Your bio states: BA in International Studies, Sociology and World Religions.

What's wrong with you? My profs in college had problems with giving me A's on topics they disagreed with, but I proved my points, not simply regurgitated what they taught. I get the facts and act on them. I think for my self.

2007-05-24 20:22:33 · update #2

Gaymalkin, actually I sat front center every class. Gave much input and had the profs, even female ones, tell me about all the feminists who wanted me silenced. BUT the profs told me they enjoyed my contribution to the academic environment. Also, to their credit they did not believe in censorship, like most liberals/feminists do

2007-05-24 21:16:25 · update #3

Gaymalkin, you are partially correct though. I often could be seen on campus doing maintenance on ALL of the boilers in all 15 campus buildings because I was the only student qualified to do the job, E.G. welding, custom fabrication of antiquated parts, heavy lifting, etc. The girls got to do the clerical/admin jobs.

2007-05-24 21:19:54 · update #4

Also have to say I got the SAME pay as the girls for that work ! ! !

2007-05-24 21:21:13 · update #5

Deirdre, are you saying that you got NO Federal Financial Aid ? I doubt that. Did you take exception with the FAFSA form that said you were EXEMPT from registering for the DRAFT because you are a female, while men are required or NO FFA ?

Who paid the majority of the bills while you spent a decade going to school ?

2007-05-26 20:22:36 · update #6

9 answers

Good point. And I dont feel like spamming your question.

2007-05-24 23:25:56 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

My partner earns more than I do, but I don't mind, just so long as She pays for the popcorn at the cinema, and the chinese take away (It is the only real member of the "food groups") that She brings home 4 nights a week. Natalie pays most of the bills, so You go figure. Should I complain? Don't get Me wrong. I am not a kept man. But I could get used to the idea.

2007-05-24 17:51:35 · answer #2 · answered by Ashleigh 7 · 3 0

I still complain about the wage differential although my husband works in upper management and there tends to be a diversity in male and female wages in that particular area. Once I finish my latest degree I will be making considerably more that my husband. Does that concern us, I assure you not in the least. I have spent almost a decade in school so I could have those letters behind my name and my husband is very proud of it. By the way I personally paid every dime for my education and continued to work throughout that period so in fact I was contributing more to the financial stability of the relationship then the male was in this case. I guess you would not know how that feels judging by your questions.

2007-05-26 12:41:25 · answer #3 · answered by Deirdre O 7 · 0 2

1. I am a stay-at home mom, so our family income is mostly through my husband's paychecks. (This addresses your final stereotype, not your first unfactual assumption.)

2. My husband tends to have a great deal of humility, which unfortunately means he has trouble asking for raises or knowing what his time is worth. This is a major problem for women in business.

3. Luckily, though, he's a man, so when he goes to *ask* for said raise, he is not viewed as being "b**chy" or "pushy", or "not a team player" as would many women in the same position.

4. Why would men's income be more likely to be spent on women than vice-versa? The only verifiable fact I can tell you for sure about income is that when women control it, more of it ends up getting spent on the children. That is what is behind efforts to give third-world countries a leg up by investing in women specifically over men. So women's income is more likely to be spent on the family than men's income.

5. I only feel "entitled" to have the same rules apply to me as to my husband.

EDIT: The wage gap has been used in a manipulative manner by both sides. SOME of the gap is attributed to women making different employment choices - choice of profession, choice of number of hours worked, etc. Some of the gap is due to the value of men's wages falling in the last 30 years. However, SOME of the gap is due to "other reasons". Wal-mart gave us one good example - they routinely paid female workers less. They were sued. Usually, it is not this blatant. And a huge part of the problem is trying to walk the tightrope that is the balance between being viewed as a "nice woman" and negotioating for proper pay. *I* am a woman, and as a woman, I can tell you that it's a problem for us. Male bosses are often uncomfortable with a woman who seems too arrogant - ie, one who asks for a raise. Corporations obviously pay each worker as little as possible, and are legally protected in this, so there is no way to legislate this unless women can overcome this tightrope act. Men do not make more *because* they are men...(usually) they have an easier time negotiating the corporate world because they are working for male bosses, who don't expect them to be "nice" and humble.
EDIT 2: I'm in favor of equal pay for equal work. And while hubby was in grad school, I was the one supporting him.

2007-05-24 17:47:56 · answer #4 · answered by Junie 6 · 2 3

Do the partners of the women who make more money than men complain about this injustice? I've made more money than my male partners most of the time I was with them, and supported them during periods of unemployment. I've been in a profession that pays very well.

FYI: Most of the feminists I know have or are married and employed; many make quite a bit of money as well. Next stereotype?

2007-05-24 20:50:30 · answer #5 · answered by edith clarke 7 · 2 3

THAT is an individual matter. There are plenty of wives who earn and spend their own money and let their husbands do what they please with theirs. Equal pay for equal work is a political matter, which is why it deserves our attention.

I personally hate it when people spend money on me, unless it's on a gift-giving occasion.

2007-05-25 07:18:28 · answer #6 · answered by Rio Madeira 7 · 0 0

Your bio states: BA in International Studies, Sociology and World Religions.

What's wrong with you?

2007-05-24 19:31:28 · answer #7 · answered by Inquisitive 4 · 2 3

okay you nailed it. You damn sure met yourself coming around the corner with this one.

Just remember you can't share the same space as your doppelganger.

2007-05-25 03:09:04 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

The question has potential to have a point, but ya lost it in your sh&tty attitude.

2007-05-24 18:05:54 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

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