http://www.progressive.org/mag_wx051807
2007-05-24
07:47:50
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EDIT: To Kobaincito, I don't know how I can "get this to resonate." How does one reach people who have super-glued their minds shut to the nefarious activities of this administration? The entire bush regime has been leading up to just this piece of legislation.
bush is negating all other branches of government, people. WAKE UP.
2007-05-24
08:01:23 ·
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EDIT #2) To pn_yo -- I am so very, very sick of the intellectual laziness of citizens who will loftily dismiss REALITY because of the source.
This is a real, actual, honest-to-god piece of legislation. It has a number on it. You can look it up and READ it if you are so horrified of the "source."
With scarcely a mention in the mainstream media, President Bush has ordered up a plan for responding to a catastrophic attack.
In a new National Security Presidential Directive, Bush lays out his plans for dealing with a “catastrophic emergency.”
Under that plan, he entrusts himself with leading the entire federal government, not just the Executive Branch. And he gives himself the responsibility “for ensuring constitutional government.”
He laid this all out in a document entitled "National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51" and "Homeland Security Presidential Directive/HSPD-20."
The White House released it on May 9.
2007-05-24
08:04:44 ·
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To Butterbar: You're 100% incorrect, but don't let that stop your slobbering worship.
2007-05-24
08:42:26 ·
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To THOMAS: Thank God somebody can READ. You actually GET the horror of this legislation:
IT OVERRIDES ALL BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT.
You people had better wake up. Really.
2007-05-24
08:44:57 ·
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I expected that something like this was in the works.
But like Julius Caesar, another political liar who thought his deity talked to him, or said HE did, Mr. Bush does not need the crown. he has found a way around the constitutional prohibition of kingship, nobility versus plebeian status and much more.
He uses a trick of Immanuel Kant--giving an appearance-level designation, a false name, to everything--so it can be used as an anti-concept--a means of preventing serious definition and thoughts about the subject by those who are scientists.
For instance, instead of debating what education is and why our massively expensive bureaucratic system's party hacks can't help our children obtain it, he leads them off into "proficiency tests"--ignoring the basic question "Proficient at what?"
It's the same in every sphere of thought. No categorizing definitions. Therefore no protection, no revenge for rights under law. No redress in the courts except after years, thousands of dollars of legal payments and years of lost income. No prioritized job descriptions, and no scientific assessments by which to earn jobs. political and religious criteria replacing qualifications to be an idea level leader in any sphere. A federal monopoly over every field of thought and endeavor held by tsars without bona fides whose definition is, "We can't/won't define anything...we run things so you have t pay us, believe us, obey us because we hold a dictatorship here.
Your frightening story is typical of pseudo-religious non-thinkers form of micro-controlling tyranny. Postmodernists want to deny and replace reality so they can become the annunciators of a new reality--the public-interest variety. which they mystically (and only they) can understand,
and set out for others in the form of commands as to what to do and not do, pay and receive, agree to say you believe don't.
Done by a patriotic mental and moral-ethical normative, such a plan would be prudent foresight and planning 'for an emergency". Coming from a Kantian postmodernist who has never told the truth about anything and slanders anyone who proves his duplicity and crimes and failures,
it is grounds for impeachment.
I called for impeachment when George W. Bush began his first run for the presidency. I was the first. And I renew that call now--with this as a principal piece of the res gestae.
2007-05-24 10:08:18
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answered by Robert David M 7
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Well, Bush cannot run for a third term, so this could be his end-around. All he has to do is declare a state of emergency, then one of his political appointees can decide what's best for the nation's continuity, which would of course be that we not distract ourselves from the emergency at hand by indulging in the waste of an election and a change of leadership at this critical juncture.
All those references to 'Constitutional Authority' don't impress me. They come from a man whose "Clean Air Act' increased allowable air pollition, whose Healthy Forests Act allowed logging and clearcutting. The NeoCon administration is masterful at naming things exactly opposite to what they really are.
It's scary, but I don't think it will actually happen.
Of course, I've been wrong before...
2007-05-24 17:18:02
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answered by Chredon 5
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The Bush Crime Family seized the White House for 2 terms after significantly losing 2 elections (barely 45% in either election....after the cheating is cleared up)
I'm not sure it's that big of a step from where they're at now
but I doubt it will happen
The corporations have already assembled a fine group of American traitors to replace the current one.
Any candidates willing to represent the people are being crushed by the power of the corporate media more than a year before the election
So the corporate takeover of America should continue after 2 Digit leaves the White House
Safer play for the corporations to just replace him....keeps their sheep from realizing who really runs this country.
2007-05-24 08:38:50
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answered by Peace Warrior 4
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The crimes that a US President could be charged with are somewhat slender: "The President, vice chairman and all civil officers of united statesa., could be distant from place of artwork on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or distinctive intense Crimes and Misdemeanors." If telling political lies became against the regulation, what baby-kisser does now no longer be in reformatory ? And, theres one ingredient with having a majority in the living house and the Senate, and its something else to have a veto archives majority, which the Democrats have not have been given in the two living house. Plus, an impeachment of Bush could seem, to distinctive us electorate, as a form of "payback" for the attempt to question Clinton. that could desire to prefer to backfire, politically, in an marvelous way.
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answered by ? 4
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Sorry, but words such as "rational", "serious" or "considered" are completely opposite of any comment on Bush "annointing himself king".
The document referenced in the nutjob website regards the continuity of government in the face of an event that would cause in interruption of government, such as a massive natural disaster or a massive attack upon the US. Every president since Truman has had to provide a contingency plan for the Federal government in the case of such an occurrence.
Nothing to be alarmed about, but that doesn't stop the moonbats from fluttering about it.
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You people are not rational.
The president's job is to provide for the continuance of government essential functions in case of a catastrophic event. Such as a nuclear device going off in Washington DC.
2007-05-24 08:05:25
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answered by Anonymous
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The Onion did an article months ago, and it's actually come true! I mean, the man wants a dictatorship "as long as (he's) the dictator"! He called the Constitution a "d@mn piece of paper"! He's is clear need of taking a political science course -- I'm totally serious. He has no idea what makes America great - one of them being personal freedom (getting screwed by the Patriot Act) and checks and balances (get screwed by this proposal).
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/51140
2007-05-24 08:49:59
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answered by shelly 4
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Wow, I just looked at the actual Presidential directive.
The following is from the directive.
(Purpose
(1) This directive establishes a comprehensive national policy on the continuity of Federal Government structures and operations and a single National Continuity Coordinator responsible for coordinating the development and implementation of Federal continuity policies. This policy establishes "National Essential Functions," prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency.
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(c) "Continuity of Government," or "COG," means a coordinated effort within the Federal Government's executive branch to ensure that National Essential Functions continue to be performed during a Catastrophic Emergency;
(6) The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government. In order to advise and assist the President in that function, the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism (APHS/CT) is hereby designated as the National Continuity Coordinator. The National Continuity Coordinator, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (APNSA), without exercising directive authority, shall coordinate the development and implementation of continuity policy for executive departments and agencies. The Continuity Policy Coordination Committee (CPCC), chaired by a Senior Director from the Homeland Security Council staff, designated by the National Continuity Coordinator, shall be the main day-to-day forum for such policy coordination. )
In The directive it talks allot about preserving Constitutional Government while using the directive to set-up completely unconstitutional activities. For example; (From the document)
"(e) "Enduring Constitutional Government," or "ECG," means a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government, coordinated by the President, as a matter of comity with respect to the legislative and judicial branches and with proper respect for the constitutional separation of powers among the branches, to preserve the constitutional framework under which the Nation is governed and the capability of all three branches of government to execute constitutional responsibilities and provide for orderly succession, appropriate transition of leadership, and interoperability and support of the National Essential Functions during a catastrophic emergency; "
It says Cooperation of the three branches of government as a matter of comity. How blatantly unconstitutional where will the checks and balances be.
People you just don’t understand the danger here if you think this is OK.
Iran trying to get Nukes can be called a national emergency by this guy.
Think about a comity of the Executive, Legislature, and Judiciary deciding that due to the national emergency it would be detrimental to the operations of the federal government to have a presidential election for the time being.
I say again Wow.
2007-05-24 08:23:43
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answered by Thomas from Miisk 2
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He hasn't anointed himself King. He was elected PRESIDENT. Among his responsibilities as PRESIDENT is the security and defense of the country. In fact that is the MAIN responsibility of the federal government. In a state of emergency the President does take on more power, but it is not absolute. Somebody has to take responsibility and that is HIS job.
2007-05-24 08:22:33
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answered by srdongato2 5
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Forget the source. How do we get this to resonate? this is news that cannot be overlooked. Blue, you had that question about Nazi/Neocon parallels and people forswore we were all rabid schizos. Well, check this out, Bush the Terrible really passed an Enabling Act!
2007-05-24 07:57:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Why not, he basically is already. I would almost bet if Bush was to write up a bill allowing a third term, some of these idiots would actually vote for him again, then again. Oh' my that is a scary thought...
2007-05-24 07:56:38
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answered by Eric D 3
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