Do you really that killing Stanley "Tookie" Williams was the right thing to do?

Question

i just want the thoughts of everyone that knows a little about him. personally i dont think he should have been sentenced to death at all..i do not 100% believe in the death penalty.. and i think it is pointless..i also think that we are not put on earth to play god so we should let justice do what they do but not resorting to death. i dont think that two wrongs make a right or remove the pain. if anything let them stay in jail for the rest of their life and let them live with the guilt of what they did.

In my heart I know Tookie is Innocent. AFter thinking things through carefully, Tookie was pretty muched framed by the Klu Klux Klan, in the police department. Tookie Williams was targeted, because of his blackness, and gang Involvement. Also he was targeted because, he was so huge, K.K.K. policemen feared Tookie for that. The rest,you already know.

I disagree about sentence to San Quentin's Chair.
A lot of you keep saying,Tookie deserves to die for killing those four people. But have any of you thought about, Tookie might just be telling the truth? Do any of you know how crooked the police can be,especially in L.A. California. Cops being charged for rape, bank robbery, murder,and selling drugs. Then theirs the police who think they are untouchable, can get away with anything. So you all tell me,why do you believe the police so much? They plant evidence on people they want to go to jail all the time In Los Angeles,especially black and haspanic people

Anyway, Most of the police out their are on a power trip of some kind. Back in the late 70's white police were very very racist.Known to the black people as the Klu Klux Klan.Now you tell me, Is Tookie really the killer they make him out to be? Or are you folks so dumb, that you believe everything the police say?
Also, I think a man shold pay for his crimes,especially murder. But I just don't believe what police say too much these days,they lie so much.

I BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD A RETRIAL ALSO BECAUSE I DONT THINK THAT THE SYSTEMS WAS REALLY ACCURATE YEARS AGO.. JUST THE OTHER DAY I HEARD OF A MAN WHO SPENT 23 YEARS OF HIS LIFE BEHIND BARS FOR A CRIME HE DID NOT COMMIT..FOR THE RAPE AND MURDER OF A GIRL...

Answer 1

yes. unfortunately it does not "right" the "wrong" done by Tookie but it provides closure to the families of those victims and to the rest of the community.

No, the death penalty is not a great solution, but like many thinks in our civilization, sometimes we are forced to do something like that in order to punish someone as twisted as Tookie.

Answer 2

Regardless of how cold, unrepetant and remorseless a defendant is, state sanctioned death can never be a solution.

If state sanctioned death was truly a deterrent, Tookie's disciples in the Crips would not be anywhere near as violent or remorseless as Tookie was. Unfortunately, gangs like the Bloods, Crips, MS-13, Mexican Mafia, Aryan nation, Asian gangs and others have their own sickening "death penalty" and do not care about spending the rest of their lives in 24 hour "permanently supervised day care" for gang bangers at taxpayer expense.

Answer 3

On December 12, 2005, Governor Schwarzenegger denied clemency for Williams. In his denial, Governor Schwarzenegger cited the following:

"The possible irregularities in Williams’ trial have been thoroughly and carefully reviewed by the courts, and there is no reason to disturb the judicial decisions that uphold the jury’s decisions that he is guilty of these four murders and should pay with his life."
The basis of his request for clemency is the "personal redemption Stanley Williams has experienced and the positive impact of the message he sends," yet "it is impossible to separate Williams' claim of innocence from his claim of redemption."
"Cumulatively, the evidence demonstrating Williams is guilty of these murders is to question the efficacy of Williams' message."
"The dedication of Williams' book Life in Prison casts significant doubt on his personal redemption and… the mix of individuals on [the dedication] list is curious" … "but the inclusion of George Jackson on the list defies reason and is a significant indicator that Williams is not reformed."
"Is Williams’ redemption complete and sincere, or is it just a hollow promise? Stanley Williams insists he is innocent, and that he will not and should not apologize or otherwise atone for the murders of the four victims in this case. Without an apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings there can be no redemption. In this case, the one thing that would be the clearest indication of complete remorse and full redemption is the one thing Williams will not do."
Governor Schwarzenegger summarized by basing his denial of clemency on the "totality of circumstances."

Answer 4

You and I are obviously followers of a different philosophy. Mine is simple but more true to human nature. Tookie wanted to stay alive, with all that time behind bars he might have even convinced himself that he didn't do anything. The evidence and the witnesses paint a more than convincing picture of Tookie. He didn't care about killing those people then, when they were no doubt begging for their lives, and I believe he didn't care on up until the worthless piece of trash that he was died. My philosophy..he didn't care if they lived, I really don't care that he died.

Answer 5

Many people felt the same about OJ Simpson. He was a black man so naturally a lot of people wanted to believe he was innocent and pure. Yeah, right! Do you still think he's innocent or just happy he got away with murder? Too bad he can't be re-tried.

Answer 6

Gov. Arnold made the right call. I had the opportunity to read the brief submitted by the L.A. District Attorney's office in opposition to Tookie's request for clemency. The evidence of his guilty was overwhelming and the lack of remorse readily apparent. He got what he deserved.

Answer 7

Tried, sentenced, and executed. He killed in cold blood. He got what he deserved. Why pay to keep him in secure luxury the rest of his worthless life? Execution is not killing or murder as the bleeding hearts are wont to believe. It was the penalty he had to pay. Ted Bundy will never murder any more young girls, either.

Answer 8

Let's see.. he forced a 7-11 clerk into the back room and EXECUTED him... for $120.

Two weeks later.. he EXECUTED an entire family for $100.

Yes, he should have been sentanced to death. Justice has finally been served and the world is a better place without him in it.

Answer 9

I am sure his victims would have loved for him to half the bleeding heart that you do - but obviously he didn't give one rats *** less about them.....may he rot in hell. Amen.

Answer 10

i think they did the right thing to sentencing him to death he was a murderer and i think he should have been murdered, it wouldn't matter now though that he's dead