I have heard conservatives say "Jesus should be in gov." and "gov. shouldn't help the poor", you find it odd?

Question

if Jesus was in the government, as many of them clearly want... wouldn't the government need to help the poor as Jesus did... if Jesus was actually in Gov.?

or if he's not in government... then shouldn't prayer be out of schools?

this has confused me at times...

and this isn't all conservatives, but more religious conservatives that wants things like prayer in schools and God more in government...

so, conservatives never bring it up? hahaha

Answer 1

Double-standards are all too common in this world. But you're right, if Jesus ran for president, I'd prolly vote for him, even though I'm not religious. He'd want us all to be happy and love us all...he'd help people that need help and the wine wud flowfor sure. =].

Answer 2

What is so confusing is that people don't understand the so called "Separation of Church and State". This was put in our constitution so states could not determine your religious beliefs Example: Florida could not say they where a Catholic state and Georgia could not say their only Baptist.
It has nothing to do with keeping prayer out of schools or taking "IN God We Trust" off of our Federal buildings. This country was built on the beliefs of Christianity and because of that we do have the right to make decisions of our own, even if their wrong at times. Just think if you lived in Iraq and where not a Muslim you would either be exiled or put to death. It's that simple. That is the purpose of "Separation of Church and State".
As far as your question I have never heard anyone say "let the poor starve" we can only help so far, but you have to be willing to help yourself. Think about this, if you where poor, hungry couldn't pay an electric bill, etc. Who would you go to first for help, probably your local church or church organization that have programs set up to help people during hard times. Thru the donations of the people attending that church, liberals and conservatives.

Answer 3

Jesus never intended for the government to be the instrument in helping the poor.

Growing up in the church, I can recall numerous times where the church body would help the poor in our congregation and in the community. This is how Christ intended it, man helping man. He never intended for government to be a meal ticket.

It is obvious looking at history that having the church as the state will not work, Christ wants us to accept Him because we want to accept him, not because the government says we must. That is why we have our Establishment Clause.

As a Christian conservative, I believe that the Supreme Court has greatly distorted the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. While the government was never intended to force a citizen to adopt a particular religious belief, it was never intended to take an agnostic approach in matters of religion v. non-religion. What was meant as a barrier to sectarian strife has been taken out of proportion to where a group of students cannot have organized prayer before a football game.

Answer 4

Prayer in schools was banned in the '60's. My daughter was told that she couldn't even say a silent grace over her school lunch when she entered school this year. The amendment quoted as 'separation of church and state' does not contain that phrase. It says that government shall not establish a religion, nor prohibit the free exercise thereof. I see an awful lot of government through the courts trying to prohibit the free exercise of religion. I get the feeling that some people also feel that any person who wants to run for public office must not practice any religion. We are supposed to be a country of diversity, free speech, freedom of association, yet there are a lot of people out there saying that Christians should not be allowed those rights. People are told they can't have a Bible in their desk drawer to read during their lunch hour. A child cannot bring a Bible Heroes book to school to read during freetime, let alone write a book report on the story of the prophet Daniel. People bashed John Ashcroft for hosting a Bible study in his office during the lunch hour, even though those attending did so of their own free will and were like minded Christians.
The problem with gov't helping the poor is that the bureaucracy that is built to do it eats up so much money that there is such a small amount left to take care of the poor. Imagine how many more people could be fed and housed with the money wasted on the welfare bureacray. There is also a lot of fraud that despite the burgeoning bureaucracy is never stopped. When it was handled by private organizations that operated in those communities, they knew the people who needed help and those who were just looking for a free ride. But people don't freely give to those private organizations at the generous rate they did years ago. Some still do the work, others had to scale back or quit. I think the goverment should set some guidelines to give money to community charities for them to use it for the people who truly need it.
The Bible has a passages where people are told to care for widows and children, it has passages where Jesus says that if we have fed the hungry, given drink to the thirsty, sheltered the homeless, clothed the naked, nursed the sick to health, visited the imprisoned, such we have done unto Him. But in the Old Testament it also says a man who does not work, does not eat. There is a more modern proverb that says "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man a fish and he will eat for a lifetime." Our gov't's attempt at helping the poor has been a major failure. Giving people handouts have taken away their motivation to function. It has trapped them instead of freeing them. Some merely don't see the point of working if they can get foodstamps, a house, and spending money without lifting a finger. Others are stuck. If they work, they can't get benefits, but the work they often get, at least early on can hardly make ends meet. There are people who just need enough to get by when they lose a job and don't have enought money to float them till they find another one, but they can't get anything because they have a house or car over a certain value so their assests preclude them from getting benefits. They have to sell the house and car and use that money before they can get assistance, but then that leaves you will no way to get to interviews or a job and no address to put on the applications. Go figure that one out. We need to change the system. Instead of handing out money for every living expense so that a person doesn't have to work, there should be a requirement that they work and there will be assistance to help them make ends meet. Give women childcare while they work. Better yet provide childcare for them to get an education. There are grants out there for going to college, won't be Harvard, but it will be a college degree. My dad lost his farm and he had to swallow his pride and take gov't assistance for a couple of years while him and momma went to college. They got grants and student jobs, and later student loans so that they wouldn't have to take welfare. My parents were still in college when I entered college, so I went to a 4-yr state university on grants that paid all my tuition, fees, books, and some living expenses and I had a student job to pay the rest.
People in our country need a work ethic and pride to make it their own way somehow instead of looking to the gov't to support them from cradle to grave. They can go work 3 down and dirty low wage jobs to put food on the table and work thier way up through experience, schooling or both.

Answer 5

Ever hear the saying "God helps those who help themselves"?
He was also a big advocate for personal accountability....

Answer 6

You really are confused , I cant help you.