Is Bush so desperate for support that he released info that Bin Laden wanted to enter Iraq in '05 to trick us?

Question

1. The US invaded Iraq in '03 and destabalized the government, the insurgency had already begun.
2. It is no surprise that Bin Laden wanted to send agents to Iraq, Iranian and Saudi trained terrorists were already operating in Iraq.
3. Bush's arguement is non sequitur, meaning it does not make logical sense to say the US presence in Iraq is fighting terrorism, if Bin Laden only wanted to enter because the US had already invaded.
4. "Stay the course" and "support our troops" have become meaningless mantras to further the president's agenda and have no connection with actual policy. Staying the course does not defeat terrorism, because Bin Laden, and all terrorists in Iraq were only able to enter AFTER the war had begun.
Support our troops is a mantra because war funding is not tied to soldier pay. Most war funding goes directly to deployment costs and the supply system. Soldiers are put in danger by being deployed in Iraq.
Is Bush trying to trick us?

Answer 1

Remember the story "The Little Boy Who Cried Wolf"? The little boy lied so much about a wolf that was not really there that when a real wolf came nobody believed him. Poor little Georgie must have never heard this tale. Or if he did he didn't learn anything from it. So...maybe all the stuff now about Osama bin Laden is true. Maybe all the stuff about Iran now is true. But having been burned once, and very seriously, why would anyone in his right mind accept anything this LIAR says now? Can we really afford to? The military is stretched to the breaking point already, the treasury is a trillion dollars in debt to Communist China and getting two billion dollars more in debt every week: we can not afford another war. It may be that we actually do have to fight another one, but we very obviously can not depend on the judgment of the President of the United States to determine whether or not we do.

Answer 2

Yes,
I am not sure how stating that BinLaden supporting terrorism in Iraq in 2005 is supporting evidence for Bush. Rumsfeld foolishly disbanded the entire military and political structure destabilizing the country completely. All BinLaden had to do was make a phone call to the insurgency that the U.S. allowed to form. (There would have been an insurgency anyway but the mess could have been better contained).

If BushNuts would have captured BinLaden when he had the chance BinLaden wouldn't be an issue. Bush didn't want to capture BinLaden because having BinLaden out there helps to promote the climate of fear Bush uses as a tool to convince Americans he is keeping us safe through war.

Anyway, Im ranting and of course some won't agree with me. I just seriously do not believe that this war is about the safety of the American people. Bush doesn't have it in his heart to care that much. Bush is a poser, a puppet, and a low-down dirty dog.

Answer 3

First off all Left wing nuts, What didn't he say that's not reasonable. Does Osama and the Boys want us out of Iraq so they can have a safe Haven for operations? Yes, If we are deafted does that impower Osama and there Radical cause? Yes. If we are defeated will they continue to attack U.S. Interest's worldwide probably more so. How can I say that, Heck, I am former Military what do I know right? but I am sure that Osama and the boys Attepted to blow up the world Center in 93, I do know They Killed 19 Airman and wounded 300 Airman in 96 at Khobar Towers, I do know, That Osama and the Boys Blew up 2 U.S. Embassy's in Africa in 98, I do know that Osama and the boys Blow a Hole in the U.S..S Cole in 2000. I do know that 3,000 Americans were killed by Osama and the Boys on 9-11, and stop your stupid Left wing nut 9-11 conspricy Theories to, respect our Country and lives lost that day . So If we leave and they win, and they gain strengh and more followers, there gonna come fast and hard against us, so live in your left wing nut world where everything is America's Fault, someday you may realize one morning were fighting these Terrorists for our WAY OF LIFE at least Bush is doing something about it!!!!!!! Heck CLINTON did nothing about it, expect LIE ABOUT HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A GIRL IN WOULDN'T HAVE TOUCHED IN HIGH SCHOOL, and spent more time worrying about LYING ABOUT scandals like Whitewater THAN MAYBE he would have taken Bin Laden into custody in 98 when the Sudan was willing to hand him over. ,

Answer 4

First of all, I doubt that Bin Laden's dead. Secondly, 8 years of complete BS? I think you're the one with a lotta BS. Bush may not have been a very good president but it's not like he didn't do anything to help our country. I'm not saying I like him either. But get the facts straight before asking a question.. and don't dump your opinions into every other space in your question.. it makes you look stupid.

Answer 5

Yes. His presidency will go down in history as one of deceit and deception. If he had not lead the U.S. to invade Iraq, al Quaida would not have a significant presence in that country. He is the "Enabler" for al Quaida's Iraq operations, and thus, his actions are the means to justify his own conclusion relating to this declassified document.

Answer 6

The release of that information was not a smart move on Mr. Bush's part. He ruined the commissioning ceremony for some coast guard officers. Also why at a coast guard academy graduation? I just think that the whole thing is strange.

Answer 7

yes, it's a GREAT BIG GOVERNMENT conspiracy, That Bush, he's quite the lil' trickster, huh? I'll bet that he has no intelligence to base his decisions on, and all of his Generals haven't got a clue on what is going on in Iraq. LISTEN UP,
SEPT 11, happened to all of us, our President and our country, without being in our President's shoes, you cannot condemn the man because you do not know what is going on, quit complaining and go out and join the armed forces, do something to help your country, or go move to north Korea.

Answer 8

Yes he is. The administration is desperate because they have lost so much support for the war.

Answer 9

What Did The Democrats Say About Iraq's ?
What Did The Democrats Say About Iraq's WMD JANUARY 30, 2004 | Document Location: http://www.glennbeck.com/news/01302004.s...

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 | Source

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