What is the correct name -Former Yugoslav Republic Of Macedonia (FYROM) or?

Question

Former Turkish Vilayat Of Greece (FTVOG)?

Nobody has understood my question yet

@Dimitris. Good answer. You understand my point. We might disagree about 'Macedonia' but we all should agree that NO country should be called 'Former'

Answer 1

Former Turkish Vilayat Of Greece sounds nice!!

Answer 2

The state of the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) isn't area of Greece. Greece has no imperialist perspectives on any of its neighbours, in assessment to a pair of its neighbours. The province of Macedonia that's a factor of Greece has inhabitants who're of course Greek, and that they are Macedonians. Being a Macedonian isn't an ethnicity or separate national team in Greece. it truly is quite like the Tuscanians are Italians, or the hot Yorkers are individuals. of course, the inhabitants of FYROM are actually not Greek, they're of Slavic or Albanian descendance, that's why they're attempting to hit upon a unifying "national" id under the fake Macedonian pretext. All this confusion is precisely why we are saying that the call Macedonia won't be able to refer by way of itself to a state exterior of Greece, you spot how plenty confusion it creates.

Answer 3

it is called the Republic of Macedonia and that is all. Can't really debate on a countries name.

Answer 4

The correct name for Former Yugoslav Republic is Skopje. It's just that they are embarrassed because they have poor Turkish and Slavic history, so they use the Greek "Macedonian" name to refer to themselves, when in fact they are NOT Macedonians and they are NOT Greek. The true Macedonians are GREEK and live in Northern Greece to this day.

Alexander the Great was Greek too. Former Yugoslav Republic are NOT Greek, they are just Slavic people who migrated to the area right above Greece many more years after Alexander the Great.

Answer 5

Because Greece seems to be dead scared of Macedonian (or Fyromian if you want :P) territorial claims on their province of Macedonia. Calling it Former-Yugoslavian indeed makes no sense at all, it would be like saying the Former British United States or The Former Spanish Netherlands (or Former Turkish Vilayat Of Greece for that sake), what country would want such a name? In my opinion it's about time that Greece and that-nameless-country- somewhere-on-the-Balkans -that-is-often-called-Macedonia had a nice chat about this problem. After all Macedonia is a candidate member of the EU and such internal strife would be potentially damaging for the Union as a whole, and will by so have to be solved.

@aheosellinas: I did some googling and it seems that all mentionings of "Skopjeslavia" can be attributed to you. Sounds pretty strange for such an accepted name....

Answer 6

The problem is there is no correct name of this country. Why? Because there is no mutual agreement on a name to be recognized both by the country itself, its neighbours and the international community in general.
This is sad, because FYROM is not a proper name. Its just the most acceptable for practical reasosn denomination.
On the other hand the issue is not a matter of how you call the country. It is also history and mostly related to how the country wants to be perceived by the international community.
If it wants to be connected to Alexander the Great and the Ancient Macedon - well, naturally, this will be disputed by the Greeks.
And this is what the international community should agree upon - history, not simply a name.
By the way historically we should distinguish between the geographic region of Makedonia and the comparatively newly formed state. Historically, a state of the name of Macedonia/Makedonia never ever existed after the ancient state state of Alexander came to an end.
What was after WWII divided between Yugoslavia, Greece and Bulgaria was the geographic region of Makedonia. In the same way the geographic region of Thrace was divided between Bulgaria, Greece and Turkey, the geographic region of Dobrudzha - between the states of Bulgaria and Romania.

Answer 7

Unfortunately, it's a little bit more complicated than just what you call personal wish or inclination... It's naive to think that individuals can bring such decisions or even influence the official name of a country. This one is disputable for many reasons, and we all know them. It is NOT the same as other former Yugoslav republics, cos they are not violating another sovereign country's name, as is the case here. Macedonia is in Greece. Any other entity that wishes to file to be given the same name will have to be called something in between, and that is: Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. What is the problem here? People in FYRM have to learn that they cannot expect everybody to treat them as Yugoslavia did. It was their decision to leave it. Let them deal with their problems on their own now.
Turkish whatsoever has nothing to do with that. Vilajet was a subordinate admin unit, and the status of the independent Republic was given to them in YU. I'm sure everyone sees the difference.

Answer 8

From the US CIA World Factbook:
conventional long form: Republic of Macedonia
conventional short form: Macedonia
local long form: Republika Makedonija
local short form: Makedonija
note: the provisional designation used by the UN, EU, and NATO is Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)
former: People's Republic of Macedonia, Socialist Republic of Macedonia

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Answer 9

Hello dear!
Great question, but difficult to answer it promptly, since:
This land and her people were never a state
These people live there after the movements made by ex-Yugoslavia. It was frequent in those political systems to move the people around, in order to control them easier.
That region, until the late 40s was called Vardarska, and then Tito and Stalin decided to rename it to Macedonia, in order to expand towards Bulgaria and Greece, have exit to the Aegean and capture as much land and cities they could, when and if there would be any changes.

Answer 10

All the world refers to us as Greece and Greeks we refer to ourselves as Hellas (Ελλας) and Hellenes (Ελληνες) so the real answer neither Greece nor FGOV-HELLAS

Did you hear any greek shouting Greece on EURO2004 all said Hellas Hellas

In effect the western word did not ask us which name we WOULD LIKE to use. They said ok you re greece or we're bringing back the Ottomans

check this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exonym_and_endonym

Ps1 As i said again I think it is unfair that one country takes the name of a whole region that is divided among 3 countries
Bulgaria,FYROM and Greece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS2 dont forget that many Turks have roots in the region!!.

Answer 11

In Greece we say Former Yugoslav Repuplic Of Macedonia....If somebody say only Macedonia is wrong and Greek "enemy"...So if you come in greece you'd better not say Fyrom, Macedonia!!!