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think about this, snape made the unbreakable vow with draco's mother right? and Draco's objective is to kill dumbledore, draco failed and snape stepped in because he had to from the unbreakable vow. So he dumbledore had to be killed or snape will die(if you break the vow you will die)

next thing is what did it mean when dumbledore said "please..." before he was killed? Dumbledore by chance knew that snape made the unbreakable vow, so he had to be killed in order for snape to be free, dumbledore wants snape to be free and tells him to kill him. So snape had no choice but kill him.

if you want to comment about this go ahead.

2007-05-21 17:57:25 · 7 answers · asked by double ouch87 2 in Arts & Humanities Books & Authors

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Honestly, this whole series of books made a very very strong point (among other points, but we're not discussing them here) and that point was that nothing is ever as simple as it seems, everything has more than one meaning, and usually, the true meaning is hidden. In the third book, we all thought Sirius Black to be a vicious murderer, a lunatic who's only purpose in life was to kill Harry, as brutally as possible. Then we all trusted professor Moody, cause Dumbledore and Mr. Weasley trusted him too. Well, we were wrong on that one, weren't we? So why should we believe now that Snape is evil, just because he killed Dumbledore? Dumbledore is (or, sadly, "was") the smartest and most powerfull good wizard of all times. It is true that he has the tendency to see the best in people, but he is no fool. If he trusted Snape, and he did, he must have had a very good reason to do so. It was not just because Snape said he was sorry about James and Lily being murdered. That was a silly reason, because Dumbledore knew Snape hated James. So there must be another reason, something really good, cause Dumbledore did trust Snape completelly. That is a fact. Dumbledore and Snape had a plan - Snape was going to kill Dumbledore because he was a good spy for the Order, and because he was more usefull than Dumbledore was. For all we know, Dumbledore could have been dieing anyway, because of the Gaunt ring, or maybe because of the green potion in which the locket was kept. He said "please" and by that he was asking Snape to go ahead with their plan. Dumbledore was never afraid of death, and even if he was, he had always put the greater good first. So he would have sacrificed himself no matter what, in order to help the wizarding world get rid of Voldemort.

2007-05-21 23:32:02 · answer #1 · answered by broscutza 2 · 1 0

One thing I think we're going to find out in DH, is WHY Dumbledore trusted Snape so much. He has a very good reason, and I don't buy that it's cause he's sorry James is dead, Dumbledore knew he hated James. Yes, Dumbledore trusts people that most people wont, but he's not stupid, he has an ironclad reason for trusting Snape. In the pensieve Dumbledore says Snape turned spy for them at "great personal risk to himself" before Voldemore's downfall. I think something happened the night Harry's parents died and Snape proved he was on the good side.(Maybe he was under the cloak? Cause how did DD get the cloak?)

Yes, Snape made the unbreakable vow to Narcissa that if Draco couldnt kill Dunbledore, he would. I think Snape told Dumbledore about the unbredable vow. Dumbledore didnt want Draco to kill (wich would split his soal) so I think he wanted Snape to do it. I think thats what Hagrid heard them arguing about.
I think when Snape got to the tower he saw the two brooms, he knew Harry had the cloak, he put two and two together. He knew that Harry was up there too. I think Dumbledore knew Snape saw, and that's what the "Severus . . . please. . . " meant. He wanted Snape to kill him, and draw the death eaters away from Harry, quickly. I think thats why Snape's face showed loathing and hatred, he was mad at Dumbledore for making him kill him, but he knew there was no other way, he knew he had to save Harry, no matter how much he hated him. Thats why he got so mad when Harry called him a coward. And he didnt hurt Harry, even when he was trying to hurt him, in fact he was helping Harry, cause he said, "Blocked again and again untill you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed Potter!" So I think Harry'll need to learn occlumensomething and master non-verval spells before he can take on Voldemort.

It's like Lupin said "It all comes down to weather or not you trust Dumbledore, I do, therfore I trust Severus."

All in all, I think Dumbledore knew that Snape alive and trusted by Voldemort would be more important to the Order, than Dumbledore(Possibly dying).

2007-05-22 17:20:25 · answer #2 · answered by Sarah Kanoewai 4 · 0 0

I agree with this theory completely although I differ in one part of it. I think that Snape had to kill Dumbledore due to the Unbreakable Vow and that Snape is stilll Dumbledore's man through and through, as much so if not more than Harry.
Harry constantly says throughout all of the books that Snape looks at him with a sense of loating (a fact highly substantiated by all of his actions). I think that Sanpe knew that Harry was up there. There were two brooms up in the tower and sanpe isn't an idiot. Snape from what we can see also can do Legilamency to some degree (he tries to see into Draco's mind when they are in the corridor outside of Slughorn's party). It is my opinion that Snape knew that Harry was somewhere in the tower invisible (he knew about the invisibility cloak from Prisoner of Azkaban) and that Dumbledore was communicating that to him with his mind. I think that Snape would have died for Dumbledore that day and that they deep look of loathing is refering to the fact that Snape knows that he has to kill Dumbledore in order to save Harry, who he despises because of his father. Snape in this case would actually be more loyal to Dumbledore because he was willing to follow every and any order that Dumbledore gives, unlike Harry who would always choose Dumbledore's well being over his own.

2007-05-22 10:59:05 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

There must be something that happened in the past that relates to dumbledore and snape. Maybe there is another reason that dumbledore trusts him so much. Maybe that 'please...' has another meaning to it. well, we'll have to find that out in the last book!

And snape might have killed dumbledore because he wanted to be of more value in Voldemort's eyes...he is a loyal servant.

However, Snape might not be bonded to Dumbledore. Dumbledore is too nice to do threats.

2007-05-22 02:26:20 · answer #4 · answered by little zebulon 4 · 0 0

Snape has always been a funny character to me. I think that Snape always had a venegance for Dumbledore. So I think that Snape wanted to kill him before Draco did.

2007-05-22 02:20:52 · answer #5 · answered by pud123423 2 · 1 0

I agree with this but you haven't taken it far enough. Dumbledore knew he was dieing, and and so did Snape (he helped Dumbledore after he destroyed the horcrux in the ring), so it was not by chance that he knew about the vow, rather, he allowed it.

2007-05-22 08:17:47 · answer #6 · answered by WolverLini 7 · 0 0

that wasnt wat the vow was 4.... it was 2 protect draco and he did din't he??? so wats the problem?

2007-05-22 11:37:10 · answer #7 · answered by OnlyAVampireCanLoveYouForever 1 · 0 0

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