and the runner on third tags up but the runner on first does not. The batter is out on the catch and the runner is out at first due to him not tagging up thus ending the inning, but the runner on third crossed home plate before the the out at first. Does this run count or not?
2007-05-21 02:45:52 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Baseball
Probably not, it would most likely be viewed as a double play like any other one.
2007-05-21 02:52:01 · answer #1 · answered by viperdk28 4 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Everyone above is dancing around the correct answer. The batter is out on the fly ball. The runner on third tags up and scores but the only way the runner on first base would be out is on an appeal play. If the appeal is not made the runner on first base would stay on second base and would not be out. on the appeal, the pitcher would step off the mound before the next pitch and throw to first base and if the umpire calls him out the inning would be over. However, everything that occurs before the appeal counts and therefore the run counts. Good question
2007-05-21 03:20:32 · answer #2 · answered by Frizzer 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Wait...I think I understand the question. Runners on 1st and 3rd. Ball is hit. Runner on 3rd stays on the bag so he can run on the catch. Runner on 1st goes half way between 1st and 2nd. Before he can get back to first...runner from 3rd crosses home and the ball that was caught gets to first thus causes the third out of the inning.
Runner is out, run does not count because there was a force play in effect. It was not like he was trying to advance to second after tagging and got tagged out. Hope this answers the question.
2007-05-21 12:50:49 · answer #3 · answered by Rambler 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The run counts. The third out was a time play not a force out. It was from the appeal of the runner leaving 1st base early on the play (live ball appeal). As long as the runner touched the plate before the fielder on first had the ball for the third out the run scores legally.
2007-05-21 03:01:53 · answer #4 · answered by david w 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I'm not sure i understand your question. First of all the runner on first base does not have to tag up. But assuming both runners do tag up, if the runner on third crosses home plate before the runner on first is tagged out, then the run does count.
2007-05-21 02:56:23 · answer #5 · answered by groki68 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
There's no rule preventing him from advancing. Its just a matter of the runner and base coach deciding if they think he can make it safely. There's a guideline that you should never make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd base. Its not a rule, but its just a strategy most teams try to stick to. Tagging up from 2nd to go to 3rd doesn't score a run, and after the fly ball is caught there are now 2 outs, so it will require a base-hit from the next batter to score the run anyway. You don't gain anything by taking 3rd in that situation so there's no reason to take the risk of being thrown out.
2016-05-18 22:14:19 · answer #6 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The run counts because it was scored before the third out. The appeal play at first was not a force out.
2007-05-21 21:37:26 · answer #7 · answered by Ryan R 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Run counts.
The leaving early at first is NOT an automatic out, it must be appealed. If the appeal play ocures BEFORE the runner crosse the plate, then the run would not score. This would be a "live ball appea". It is also NOT a foce out.
2007-05-21 03:21:03 · answer #8 · answered by br549 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
THE RUNNER ON FIRST BETTER NOT TAG UP OR THAT IS WHEN HE IS OUT. THE RUNNER ON FIRST DON'T TAG OR THEY COULD DOUBLE HIM OFF .SO IF HE STAYS AND THE THIRD BASE RUNNER TAGS AND SCORES THAT IS CALLED A SACRIFICE FLY THE BATTER GETS AN RBI AND THERE ARE STILL ONLY TWO OUTS
2007-05-21 03:04:05 · answer #9 · answered by rclifton70 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The runner doesn't HAVE to tag up...So he is not out if he doesn't tag up. So therefore there is 2 outs, the run counts, and there is still a runner on first.....The run always counts if it is not a force out, which that wouldnt be.
2007-05-21 02:54:42 · answer #10 · answered by brooklyn7582 5 · 1⤊ 2⤋
no... the runner who crosses home plate is not considered safe as the 2 guys who were playing at that time( one on first and one batting) were noth out in the play... unless there is still another out to give the runner on thrid has not scored a run....
2007-05-21 02:56:07 · answer #11 · answered by joe f 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋