Why do neo-cons dismiss Carter's Nobel Peace Prize but adhere so religiously to Bush's purported IQ score?

Question

You'd think an IQ score would be one of the most fluid and nebulous scores to champion, given the amount of variables involved. Then again, they need SOMETHING to crow about.

Besides, is there a valid link for this claim that Bush scored a higher IQ test and GPA than challenger John Kerry, whom the wartime president so narrowly, narrowly beat for re-election?

Cons --- I'm still waiting for that link.

Kim -- your blind unwavering acceptance of an IQ test notable, but variables are this. First, there are many IQ tests, not just one; secondly, WHEN was the IQ test done, who did it, and who assessed it? Third, if the test results are not public access (as evidenced by lack of a link here) then how are we to truly know the score exists, and if being the son of a large-scale, political family didn't affect the way the IQ score was interpreted?

Incidentally, like all things in life, I tend to dismiss people who bring up IQ scores early in the conversation as a winning argument. Even if Bush has a high IQ, you'd never guess it by his speeches, inability to lead, and poor assessement of the Iraq situation.

OWNED back atcha, Kim! Have a good'un.

Answer 1

I think they just think of the hostage crises when they think of Carter , Reagan reaped the benefits of the hostage release but only because he bribed them and submitted to blackmail by the Iranians to get them . What ever Bush's reported I.Q. score , it hasn't served him well and he is nothing more than a megalomaniac incapable of thinking of more than a power grab for himself , everything else be dammed as far as he is concerned .

Answer 2

Because the press made such a big deal out of everything during that election. People made Bush out to be a dolt and Kerry as a genius. Who gives a damn who has what IQ or Nobel prize? All anyone should worry about is who is going to lead our country best. I've known some very intelligent people who had the common sense of a house fly and continually bugger things up. Conversely, some folks, who may not be Mensa material, turn out to be brilliant decision makers.

Answer 3

First you need to understand that the NPP is a joke in and of itself. One of the chief failings of the Nobel committee: it often gives the Peace Prize to people or agencies for offering peace plans that have yet to be tested. Many of the early prizes were given to people involved with "peace organizations". Two Nobel Laureates were Aristide Briand (1926) and Frank Billings Kellogg (1929), whose drafted the Kellogg-Briand Pact, a treaty that outlawed war. Yeah, that worked.

After WWII, the Nobel Committee continued to dole out Peace Prizes to people who talk about peace more than they implement it. The roster of Nobel Laureates is dominated by ineffectual stabs toward promoting peace, and a handful of stabs against it. To judge the award by the worthy few (Albert Schweitzer, Martin Luther King, Andrei Sakharov, Mother Teresa) who won it is like judging a factory that produces 90% scrap by the ten percent products it manufactures correctly. The award is meaningless.

Conservatives bring up Bush's IQ--because Liberals can not argue intelligently and repeatedly use "Bush is an idiot" regardless of the issue at hand. Giving you his SAT scores etc is a direct answer to your non-question.

Answer 4

2 million votes is hardly narrow- Clinton won with less.

Living in Massachusetts- I am thankful that Kerry was not elected-

and I am constantly amazed and how libs ignore all of the same things that kerry has that they criticze Bush for. Wheter it be wealth, political and family connectsions, and relying more on riding other people's coattails then his own achievements.

-The Nobel Peace prize has become more about politics of the moment than any legitamate measurement of accomplishment, Look at Carter's blundering and destructive interventions in Haiti and North Korea- to see that he takes himself far too seriously as a diplomat- and takes far too much credit for so called accomplishments.

Answer 5

The whole Nobel thing is run by communists and liberals. The whole thing is a joke. That is why Rush Limbaugh has been talking about being nominated (which he actually is).

IQ score means nothing to me as a conservative. The ability to navigate the real world is far more important. Bush has run many successful businesses. That means something.

As for the rest of your rant, I have no idea how this is relevant to anything.

Answer 6

We don't we dimiss Carter because he left his Presidency and country in shambles.

Carter was a peanut farmer... Bush went to an Ivy League school. Hmmm.... I'm not saying Carter doesn't do great humanitarian works like being anti-semetic, and showing sympathy and support to terrorists... all great traits.

Why do libs constantly try and scrounge up hairbrained conspiracy theories and crackpot questions with no logic to prove something???

Anyway thanks for the 2 points, douche!

Ps Bush won 2 elections fair and square you can count and recount as much as you'd like but the fact remains that he won.

Maybe you shouldn't hug trees so hard looks like it's cutting off your oxygen supply to the brain...

Answer 7

I do not begrudge Carter his Nobel Peace Prize...I just do not agree with his POLITICS!
As for Bush's IQ...I have never made the first comment about it until right now. But I would think Other Republicans are putting it out there because of the Dem's and Libs crowing about how dumb Bush is...you can't make an accusation and expect people to just take it when it isn't true.

Answer 8

I have a question for you: Why is it that liberals always bring up Bush's IQ or GPA? When the facts on those 2 things come out, then all of a sudden they don't matter anymore.

YA politics isn't a place for intelligent discussion. Right now it's a place to go to participate in spitting contests. What disappointment.

Answer 9

Bush's intelligence for war and death far exceeds Carters.

I am reading alot of nonsense in here. The FRUIT OF BUSHES TREE has been lies, death and destruction so that corporate greedy coulr have fat bank accounts.

Carter didn't worship the Almighty dollar, the fruit of his tree was peace, patience, restraint, and tolerance all of which enabled Reagan and the Pope to get Russia to bring down the great wall in Berlin.

The FRUIT OF CARTERS tree was a rebuke to the neo-con world bankers and war and oil brokers, and they penalized his Presidency with high interest and oil prices.

Any one with a sane rational mind can see that Carter was leaps and bounds smarter than the lieing war monger in office.

Answer 10

seems like a question designed to stir up hate and discontent. Whatever happened to being the UNITED states of america? We're a country full of idiots, just waiting to turn on each other. It's no wonder the Muslims want to attack us! Divide and conquer, and we're too freaking stupid to see it. NICE!

Answer 11

Did you live thru the Carter era??Even now after he's been out of office all these years it's like he's still trying to finish off our country with all his back stabbing causes!