how can Passion & Submission be mistaken as acts of LOVE?
2007-05-17 10:24:28 · 15 answers · asked by enki 4 in Arts & Humanities ➔ Philosophy
The answer is right there, "...can Passion & Submission be mistaken acts of LOVE." Often. A better definition is "mutuality," not love. Different strokes for different folks, but the reality is that when we love someone, we don't inflict harm on them, nor do we let them inflict harm on us. I'm not making a judgment about this behaviour, but--so very often--it indicates the INABILITY to feel passion any other way.
Edit: From my years of experience, I totally disagree with AthenaGenesis. Dominant & submissive roles of S&M are primarily interchangeable; & if chemicals released through pain or pleasure are the same, this doesn't change physical & emotional response. Levels of "trust" in accepting degrees of pain has virtually nothing to do with love. Also, LizettaRose; I agree that unless one has "been there" it may seem audacious to comment, & I've been there. Never to the extent of "abuse" but I know what it's about. Nor is love selfish & self centered.
2007-05-19 16:34:47 · answer #1 · answered by Valac Gypsy 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I agree with AG. But I must say that unless you are into the scene you can not really say yes or no. Love can and will be found the world over. Love is not selfless is it quite selfish and self centered. I believe that the amount of trust in the BDSM scene that forms between partners is more than the common relationship has. This is not the trust that one has about whether or not your other will cheat on you. It is about faith in the person to share your desires and to know your and their limits. Not only does the submissive have to trust the dominant to respect the 'safety word' but the Dom must trust the Sub to use it when it is needed. True fear never really never enters the relationship. If the sub truly fears the Dom then it is an abusive relationship, not a true Dom/sub relationship.
If you have never been there you can not say you have seen it.
2007-05-19 06:24:20 · answer #2 · answered by LizettaRose 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There is an element of love in S&M but only an element. S&M tends to be something that is familiar either due to a lack of self worth, past experience or any other social factor that can confuse clear thinking.
Passion and submission can be acts of love but that I think is outside of S&M. With S&M, I don't believe that there is real passion but submission occurs in every form of love in some degree. If there was not submission, there would be no reception.
2007-05-17 19:58:59 · answer #3 · answered by seychellesdreaming 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I think it depends... I think you are asking the wrong question... S&M is the how, not the why...
sex practice preferences do not have anything to do with why the people are having intercourse in the first place...
and there is always some sort of submission in the most boring straight laced sex, as well...
so, I say you may find people who had a romantic sexual encounter though they don't care about seeing the other person ever again and at the same time have a couple who share a life-time and have the odd S&M sex every now and then...
2007-05-17 12:38:18 · answer #4 · answered by t(h)inker 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Yes.
Because there is immense trust in bondage roleplaying. And trust is also important in love. There is also a control word that is used to bring all actions to a stop if it happens to get out of hand.
Also unlike what most people think it is not the dominant one in a S&M relationships in control, but the submissive partner that is. It is the submissive one that has the control word and says when everything stops.
The dominant one can only controll the level of pain given and the level of pleasure received.
These acts can be considered acts of love, b/c of the level of trust and acceptance that one must have for their partner. Without the trust, then the pain and acts can not be done safely and turn into acts of violence and aggression.
FYI: you brain reacts to pain and pleasure the same way, the same chemicals released during a moment of pleasure are also released during a moment of pain. The only difference is one's perspective. Change your perspective and you change the your interpretation of the sensation you are feeling.
2007-05-17 10:51:29 · answer #5 · answered by AthenaGenesis 4 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Only God and Spirit-Filled people practices love.
No. There isn't any love in sadomasochism. The origin of sadism and masochism (Sadomasochism) dates back to the in-the-black-mass-and-witchs-sabbath, it's satan's work. The people who fending off sadism and masochism of accusations are from satan's cults, possibly their doctrine.
Source: http://tracytwyman.com/the-origin-of-sado-masochism-in-the-black-mass-and-witchs-sabbath/
2015-12-13 00:57:29 · answer #6 · answered by ? 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
That's the problem, that some people confuse Love / Lust. I'm not saying Lust(sex) is bad or anything, it just has nothing to do with Love. What is Love? Love is about Giving Pleasure, not pain, and I'm not talking about physical p/p here.
Good luck with that!0!
2007-05-17 10:43:05 · answer #7 · answered by Alex 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋
I guess I've always thought of S&M as a fantasy (like roleplay or something) not a way of life. If it's a way of life...I'd have to say no, that's not love.
2007-05-17 12:21:48 · answer #8 · answered by Js_5 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
actual BDSM is a lot of fantasy, but it forms very deep connections between people involved. relations between those in the BDSM scene share much deeper trust than many marriages.
and if both people enjoy it, and are doing it for mutual pleasure and enjoyment, how is that different than any other act of love?
2007-05-17 10:44:50 · answer #9 · answered by Liberated Parasite 2 · 6⤊ 2⤋
There is love, the question remains which end of the whip does it come?
2007-05-17 11:46:50 · answer #10 · answered by ycats 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋