I need a good label for this guy that shows up where I do when the game is on. He is the anti-fan. For example, if you live in Detroit and you know someone who bought an Avs jersey in 1997 just to get under as many peoples' skin as possible. Or if you live in Edmonton and last summer you watched someone casually stroll down the street in a Canes jersey.
They are antagonists, but is there a better word to use? Everyone has to have one of these bitter, soulless twerps that roots for whoever is playing against the home team. Do you have a term of endearment for them?
*The common place is not a bar and we are under a special set of circumstances. If alcohol were involved, I'm sure he would have been put on his butt and run home already. We are currently outside of the States.
2007-05-17 05:49:46 · 17 answers · asked by Scotty F 4 in Sports ➔ Hockey
I can't believe I'm typing this, but............................................................................. I agree with Noah. Douchebag works quite nicely.
2007-05-17 06:25:07 · answer #1 · answered by Cat Loves Her Sabres 6 · 3⤊ 3⤋
Interesting question, and yes I know what you mean about this kind of person, I mean it's ok to like an out of town team, but when the behavior is that where they are liking different out of town teams all the time, then the person is doing it on purpose. I can't really think of a good term for this kind of person. This is the guy that doesn't get along with anyone for whatever reason. The funny thing is, like you said, if he were in Detroit with the Avs jersey, if you took the same guy to Colorado at the same time, he would wear the Wings jersey out there. I would just call them a frontrunning Johnny for lack of a better term right now.
2007-05-17 06:11:12 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
It depends. If the person is just a fan of the opposing team, which is what your examples suggest, then there is really nothing wrong with it. That said, if you are talking about a place where everyone goes consistently to root for a specific team, and this guy shows up and roots against them, despite who they are playing against, then I don't know if there is anything specific to call him except a jerk.
2007-05-17 07:28:48 · answer #3 · answered by Mr. Taco 7 · 2⤊ 3⤋
Good question. I'm not sure what exactly to call him but I know the best way to handle him when it comes to hockey and its not hard to do.
Public embarrassment for lack of knowledge shuts most people up. I have met a few people like that in my time (mostly in bars) and the best thing to do is to engage them in a friendly conversation about whoever they claim to be a fan of (make sure the people around you hear it). Any guy who acts the way you describe is normally not up on the latest trades, history of his team, new league rules etc.
It wont take long to show just how little he knows about "his team" or the game, you and your friends get to laugh at him as he realizes you know more about "his team" than he does, and 9 times out of 10 he will start kissing your *** and backpeddling.
But if you want a name, I would call him a "suitcase" or "benedict". They call guys who get traded all the time suitcases and benedict is the most famous trader of them all.
2007-05-17 07:23:30 · answer #4 · answered by Zam 5 · 3⤊ 4⤋
Poser, then ask him to name 4 players on their team. Did that with a Chicago Bears fan down here in FL during the superbowl. He could only name 1 player, probably just bought the jersey cause someone in his family used to live in Chicago, or....he's just a Poser.
2007-05-17 07:08:26 · answer #5 · answered by J R 4 · 1⤊ 4⤋
The short answer is: Doc Hollywood. (Seriously, have you checked out this guy's posts? He's allegedly a Sharks fan but all he does now is shriek "Go Sens!" every time they win a game. Nauseating.)
The long answer is: You've received some good answers to your question, including some excellent dictionary/thesaurus definitions for such antisocial behavior. I guess I'm less concerned with finding an appropriate label for these people as I am with psychoanalyzing them. I mean, why do people feel the need to be so in-your-face about something they don't actually care about?
The Doc Holliday example I gave above illustrates my point perfectly. What possible pleasure does he derive by pretending to be in the Ottawa fanbase when he is clearly not? Does he get sick pleasure from taunting Sabres fans in their moment of sorrow? Does it somehow compensate for his own shortcomings? Is this a desperate social act, trying to fit in with another city's fans in lieu of commiserating with his own? Perhaps it's because he can only back a winner and must thus turn his back on his own team when they lose.
I'm not sure I've answered your question but I hope I've at least made some people think. Your closing comment was dead-on, btw. There is no way in hell this guy is walking into a Buffalo bar and waving a perceived triumph in the faces of the locals. I think that's what I most despise about this forum. I'd been striving to be civilized and magnanimous, holding people to a higher standard of behavior. I was very gracious to both Islanders and Rangers fans, going out of my way to compliment their teams and (most) fans and exhorting my fellow Sabres fans to act with class and grace in victory. But during this difficult series with Ottawa, I just lost it. The wave of hatred for Buffalo -- not just its sports franchises but its people -- was just too much. I guess I got a bit primordial there when I pointed out that these same poltroons wouldn't have the nerve to spew their venom to my face and challenged them to come to my gym and go a few rounds. I'm not proud of sinking to that level but I know these instigators did all they could to make me feel and act that way. It is true that I've been using the vicious slurs of Babs Lowblow and others to fire me up in my workouts of late and that's fine. I think it technically qualifies as constructive anger management (lol). But even I know that I was over the top when I openly challenged these idiots to drop by my gym and step into the ring with me. I'm thinking now that if part of what makes these punks behave like the bandwagoners, fair-weather "fans" or antagonistic morons they aspire to be is to provoke such a base reaction from normally civilized people like me, then I really need to do some self-examination of my own.
You're right, Scotty. These people are soulless (as well as spineless). They are beneath my dignity and thus it is well beneath my dignity to respond the way I did. I didn't expect this response to be a mea culpa (I was actually just planning to say something glib) but sitting here today and re-reading my own words I'm embarrassed by how much I've allowed these twerps to get to me. I think I need to go back to taking the high road, just as I'd been preaching to others in this zoo.
Our Sabres may or may not pull off a miracle comeback but irrespective of the outcome, I want to be able to sincerely wish the Sens fans (most of whom I'd come to respect before things got nasty) well if their beloved team advances to the Stanley Cup final. I don't want to be like ClayMeow (a Rangers fan) who still can't get over the fact his team was beaten fair and square by a superior Sabres team. That may be his class (Babs Lowblow's class is so much lower I can't even see it, lol) but it's not mine.
Sorry for the essay-length answer. Thanks for the (unintended) wakeup call. I'll still work out my rage and disappointment (again, barring that miracle) at the gym but I'll tone down the rhetoric in here. Cheers!
2007-05-18 09:22:18 · answer #6 · answered by Buffalo Sabres 3 · 8⤊ 0⤋
Good question.
How about the Barnabonian fan.
Named after Matt Barnaby. He is annoying as hell, gets your blood boiling, comes back every year with a different jersey because his act wears thin everywhere. Basically his sole purpose of being there is to piss people off, and I can't really look at Barnaby without getting pissed. Remember those cheesey silver teeth he once wore. What a clown.
2007-05-17 06:00:10 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 5⤋
Poser. Wannabe. Dissimulator. Adversary. Idiot.
2007-05-17 06:40:25 · answer #8 · answered by WDarling 2 · 3⤊ 2⤋
I'm not sure what you call them, i posted a previous example on a different question, i like the term douche bag, it works well, as does @ss hole, prick, antagonist, idiot who spent 80 dollars on a jersey yet doesn't even like hockey, but i'm gonna wear it in spite of you team, usually a jersey of a player who hasn't been with the team for over 3 years, but hell they don't know any different.......yeah these people piss me off.
Go Wings!!!
*EDIT* boy it sure looks like a few of these "Douche bag" fans read this and got mad, i'm guessing by all the thumbs down on everyones answers. My god, what idiots!
2007-05-17 06:09:55 · answer #9 · answered by Wings Fan! 6 · 4⤊ 5⤋
I agree with everyone who said "poser". He's posing as a fan of winning teams, and, even more insulting, he's posing as a hockey fan.
2007-05-17 08:18:19 · answer #10 · answered by hockeygirl 2 · 3⤊ 2⤋
schizo - having an identity crisis
prodigal or expatriate - wandering/banished from home
masochist - gets pleasure from his own pain, cuz that's what he's about to receive when he goes down a dark alley wearing that jersey
but name calling usually only makes it worse. you gotta use psychology. zamdriver has a good idea. it's a time tested technique.
2007-05-17 08:26:08 · answer #11 · answered by you 6 · 3⤊ 4⤋