Should the President be impeached for lying to America about Iraq's WMD and should Rice and Cheney be likewise

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QUESTION: Should the President be impeached and indicted on charges of high crimes and treason for lying to America about Iraq's WMD and for committing our nation to war? Indicted for a war that murdered almost two million innocent Iraqi citizens (Hebrews) and four thousand innocent US soldiers. Should Rice and Cheney be likewise charged and indicted?

Side facts: (1) It was illegal for the President Bush Senior and therefore Bush Junior, during his term in office, to commit our nation to war, based on the fact that our nation had no legal right to act and that Saddam had committed no wrong. Yet, our nation, President Bush and company, said that all we wanted in 1990-91 was for Iraq to leave Iraq. (2) During this time, my firm had secured Saddam's agreement to withdraw as well as to come to the negotiation table on matters of oil, trade, and regional security. Was President Bush Sr wrong to have invaded Kuwait and was Bush Junior wrong for invading Iraq based on these things and more.

In 1990-91 the company that I worked for negotiated the withdrawal of Saddam's troops from Kuwait and it was the Bush administration that rejected Saddam's offer to withdraw at a time when they said that all they wanted was to have Saddam out of Kuwait. The real Sun Ming-ming is a local attorney with a law firm in Hawaii, whose identity I can not reveal.

The reason for Saddam's "invasion" of Kuwait was because Kuwait manipulated the price of oil, in opposition to OPEC policies, in an effort to destroy Iraq's war-torn economy. At that time, Iraq was our American ally in the Gulf region and they (their government) helped us keep the gulf free of terrorism, so as to protect our oil shipping lanes. This is a solid fact. We allowed Iraq to acquire WMD, yet Iraq did not seek the full extend of our aid. That's why Dick Cheney and others were so concerned. What we did was illegal and unethical. Due to our government's fears, a number of people in high places had legitimate concerns and little or no intelligence to back up what we (they) had illegally done.

Saddam's "invasion" of Kuwait was legitimate (legal) as it was a policing action to protect his nation from Kuwait's illegal manipulation of oil prices. Iraq at that time was a US ally.

Almost 2 million innocent Iraqis died, due to Bush administration outright lies and about four thousand US troops died.

Should President George W. Bush Senior and Junior and their administrations be prosecuted for their part in these crimes against the nation and Constitution?

I would like to see some good answers posted here as well as short personal opinions in support of this posting question.


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COMMENTS to answers posted:

No WMD were ever found in Iraq. Traces of chemicals are not the same as finding large caches of chemical weapons. While it is a fact that Saddam had gassed Kurds in an effort to put down Kurd rebellions in Iraq, the US did the same in Vietnam for many years and millions died (1.2 million Vietnamese)! Saddam's transgression was in an effort to protect his own country. Ours was in a war effort on another nation's soil.

Iraq never violated UN resolutions as it had destroyed all of their WMD chemicals and WMD program via UN requests. Iraq was in compliance with UN resolutions illegally secured by the US government. This, again, is a solid fact!

Lastly, what was stated by our government has been proven to be false. So the real question, here, is the American public in favor of the indictment of the President for lying (yes, he did lie outright about the war) and his shouldered responsibility for this murderous and heinous, illegal war?

Is the general public in favor of the indictments of Condoleezza Rice, Dick Cheney, and others who were responsible for the murders of 2 million innocent Iraqi citizens and four thousand US troops?

Do US troop lives mean anything to you?

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Alex, prosecution should be based on the violation of law and NOT on what people believed. If I believed that a gun was not loaded (my statement), yet people (CIA) told me that it was and I shot and killed someone, am I now guilty of murder?

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cissyit, a US President and his son and their administrations violate the US Constitution and bring about an illegal and murderous war. Somewhere just under 2 million deaths occur and billions of our taxpayer dollars are spent pursuing this illegal and unnecessary war.

Would you be against the prosecution of our President, Cheney, and Rice for their intentional part in our crimes? What does 2 million innocent lives mean to you? And if these are people who are supposed to be dedicating their lives to God, do you feel any sorrow now that they have been killed murdered?

A black man in America kills a White woman and rapes her before killing her and her two young children. Should this man be punished or let free?

An American President commits an act of treason and two million foreigners are killed. What should his punishment be, if any?

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My family comes from Hassuna in Iraq from ancient times, yet we still are Iraqis.

Answer 1

YES. He should be impeached immediately before he causes more deaths or even WW3. He is incompetent to lead and Cheney and Rice are not far behind him. All should stand trial for crimes against humanity.

Answer 2

The democrats , including senator Hillary Clinton and Former president Clinton , also thought there were WMD's...they saw the same intelligence reports as the republicans. The democrats voted on a resolution for war, and last time we had a treaty with Kuwait. maybe your agreement, if it exists, didn't meet all of the Kuwait and ally objectives.

High level Iraqi officials also thought they had chemical weapons. Apparently Saddam wanted people to think he had them so he could maintain his own power base through fear.

He was given many opportunities for open disclosure by the U.N.

Iraq used chemical weapons against the Kurds and Iranians 20 years before.


This is obviously an unpopular war, but some of the criticism of the president doesn't even bother to rise above name calling. IF you didn't like the WAR , you had an opportunity to vote him out after 4 years and you didn't. Even your own candidates can't agree on hope to deal with Iraq.

Answer 3

I am not a fan of President Bush; however, I cannot prove that he lied. If he believed the faulty intelligence, he did not lie. Further, I'm not sure that a lie rises to the level bribery, treason, other high crimes and misdemeanors. I'd be interested in reading arguments addressing the question "if Bush purposely mislead the American people and Congress to obtain authorization for war does that rise to a level of treason?

Remember the First Gulf War had little to do with the invasion of Kuwait except as an excuse to protect the Saudi oil fields.

Answer 4

I think that this idea has been done to death. Since the House is mostly democrat, they would have done it if they had even a shred of hope that they could prove anything. I think it would be more useful to find another horse to beat. As to Robert Byrd being the most honest person in the Senate, I don't know about that, I guess it depends on what your version of honesty entails. I do know that Robert Byrd has been the"king of pork" and he has more roads in West Virginia leading nowhere, to his credit than anyone else. Perhaps that is why he keeps getting elected, he brings home the bacon, and, because he has so much seniority, he makes West Virginia important. I wonder what will happen when he retires or dies. West Virginia won't have any more jobs, and those roads won't be maintained anymore. We need term limits.

Answer 5

OMG, how many times is this question going to be asked by the left?? WMD were found, there have been many found in the past several years. Last year in April they found a cave filled with mustard gas containers that were being prepared to be placed onto rockets. How many news stories were there about Saddam using WMD's on his own people and the Kurds? Plus, the fact that in the months before Iraq was invaded there were satellite photo's taken of several convoys of trucks going from Iraq into Syria, and the Russian Military leaders who whet to Iraq to help them move the items out of the country. What about the scientists who were captured by the American military within a year after the war started who admitted working on WMD's for Saddam's military?

Talk about selective hearing.

Answer 6

Bush never lied about the weapons of mass destruction. In the months following the U.N. search for the WMD Iran said that they have nuclear capiblity. These WMD that Bush said was in Iraq was exported to Iran. I watched a history chanel program a couple of weeks ago and it was showing that Sadam had the WMD. And it was not illegal for both Bushs to ask CONGRESS to declare war. If it was illegal for anyone then it would be illegal for CONGRESS NOT THE PRESIDENT. Congress is the only branch that can declare war not the president.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

No, that's ridiculous, because you can't prove they were lying. Most Democrats and other politicians believed they had WMDs as well.

There are other impeachable offenses, however. Certainly moreso than getting a bl*wjob.

Answer 9

Why didn't you mention this agreement back in 1991? or 92? or 93? or 94? or 95? or 96? or 97? or 98? or 99? or 00? or 01? or 02? or 03? or 04? or 05? or 06?

Answer 10

There is no doubt that Bush and Cheney should not brought up for impeachment. I just wish that the political majority will stand up and start the proceedings. They impeached a president who lied about his personal sexual deeds yet they have not started proceedings to impeach a president who lied to the people to justify his personal war and invasion of Iraq.

Answer 11

No, because WMD's were found, (both sarin and mustard gas) in fact over 500 have been found since 2003. Saddam used them on the Kurds. How we over look the facts.
We could go on then about how FDR led us into WW2. Germany never attacked us, Japan did.
Truman finished that war and started a war in Korea. Korea never attacked us.
JFK started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.
Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us.