How can you disagree with Ron Paul's comment last night?

Question

It is well knownt that the middle east does not like us, but it is not because they hate our freedoms as Guiliani would have us believe, who by the way is very weak in the history department. It is because we have been involved in the overthorw of governments. There is not one person who can reasonably tell me that the overthrow of Mossadegh in 1953 was very influential to terror in the middle east. After all, operation ajax documents do show that the U.S used terrorism in Iran and blamed it on Mossadegh to turn the public agaisnt him. If you know history you should know that Paul was correct in his comment last night.

I'm not talking about high school history!

I meant cannot reasonably tell me

Sarah D- as a historian I suggest you to read more and make more connections from past to present.

Answer 1

The Cia was behind the effort because the ELECTED government didn't like our oil companies so we had the Shaw of Iran put in who loved US Oil companies. That is why we aree still in Iraq!

Who haven't we overthrown, Cuba (We supported Castro), Iran (The Shaw), Iraq (Hussein), Vietnam and many you will never know about!

And I agree with you, and so did a Col I met in the 101st in Vietnam:

"And I know what you're gonna say next. 'He sponsors terrorism'. Where's the proof? I thought we were going after bin Laden for that. But wait, Afghanistan ain't got any oil. So we need another monster, who's got something worth taking. And Saddam is so damn convenient. Yeah, he's an evil sonovabitch who deserves to be taken out, but are we the ones who should do it? Are our kids the ones who should die for it? Is he worth another Wall like this?

"And what the hell is terrorism, anyway? It's not a thing; it's not a place; it's not a person. It is a political and military strategy, that's all. Having a 'War On Terrorism' is as ridiculous as having a 'War on Flanking Maneuvers'. You'll end terrorism when there's no longer anything for anybody to get pissed off about."

"As for now, maybe if we looked at why people are pissed at us, we'd begin to understand. Hell, it doesn't matter whether they're right or wrong; it's what they perceive that motivates them. What you have to address is why they perceive things as they do. Only then will you start to get a clue. And spare me the bullshit about them hating us because of our freedom. We haven't been truly free in a long time. And now we're letting all this demagoguery convince us to give up what little liberty we have left.

We put the wingnuts in power. Another of our operatives was Osama bin Laden!

And it is much more than the overthrow of governments. It is the theft of their resources!

Answer 2

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Answer 3

There is no good reason to disagree with anything he said. The only reason some do so is because they're either delusional or lying to protect their self-interest (obviously, the companies that sell substandard equipment to the military at exorbitant prices and their employees have a strong incentive to put out lies). Yahoo is a well-known site, whereas some others aren't, so these people tend to be more numerous at Yahoo.

I've asked numerous questions before regarding military-related things such as "the draft" and received numerous answers from crazy belligerents. I don't think these people can be serious. However, sometimes people will go to extreme lengths to lie when their own benefit is on the line. Never trust anything coming out of a Neo-Conservative's mouth. Ron Paul previously explained (before Congress) how the Neo-Cons admire Leo Strauss and Machiavelli, both of whom advocated fraud and lies to wage wars and control people. These people are closer to Adolph Hitler than they are to any decent American.

We're dealing with people who cannot ever be trusted to be reasonable. However, those people are not the terrorists. They are the Neo-Conservatives. Look up Ron Paul's Neo-CONNED speech if you want to hear about what they believe in.

Answer 4

Sorry history is not on your side with this one. It is not on Ron Pauls side either.

You presume that the current controling people (dictators, Mullahs, Imams, Royal family or so called Presidents (Iran) are the only incarnation fo hostilites from the Middle East.

Has the US been duplicit in aiding the problem? yes, But the problem has been around since 595 CE give or take a year.

This was the inception of Islam. Under the direction of Mohammad (Muhammed) the surrounding tribe and people were systematicaly raied and killed for their wealth and their people ( women and children) turned into slaves.

This expansion continued into what is know as the Caliphate and at one time stretched as far north as France, all of Northern Africa and much of the Near East.

The Crusades were a direct response to the Caliphate as pilgrams to Jerusalem were routinely killed and their property stolen. An important side note (one they don't mention too loudly in the schools) was the alternate trade routes to the East (Megellan, Columbus, and others) were a necessity because of the Caliphate.

When most people think of WWII they stick mainly in Europe or Japan.... while these were important areas, the Middle East and the Mullah of Egypt played a BIG part and was a major contributor to the Third Reich. The Mullah had made plans with Hitler to share power and recreate the Caliphate.

The present day fighting is a return to this dream of the Caliphate. We tend to focus on just the Middle East, but the same enemy we fight there is fighting in parts of Europe (Beslan) Africa (Somolia, Dufur and others), Austrialia and Indonesia. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14604359/ for a complete list.

This enemy believes that you must follow his way (Islam) or live in slavery or be executed. If you doubt this, read the Qur'an..... They believe in the Umma (one world community) under the rule of the Caliphate.

If you think they will stop when we leave...... you are mistaken.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamist_terrorism
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

So, back to your question, How can I disagree, it is easy when you know the facts.....

Answer 5

They are going to hate us because we support Israel. They are going to hate us because we have a much higher standard of living than the vast majority. It is very simplistic to say they attacked us on 9-11 because of our attacking Iraq, I believe that was the gists of what I heard. There is a million more hypothetical reasons if you are obsessed with being loved that we would need to be forgiven for if we didn't do those. We were rescuing a Muslim country from Iraq in case anybody forgot that. Then I have to listen to people say how evil we are for daring to desecrate a holy nation or some such offensive blather.

Answer 6

Ron Paul could have said that he taught pigs how to fly,because no one listens to him,and he doesn't stand a chance in hell of getting the nomination,and if he ran as an independent he wouldn't win the Presidency,because no one cares what he says or thinks.

Answer 7

I would never vote for either one of them.

Answer 8

Kudos to bravozulu.

Answer 9

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr071003.htm

read it!