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2007-05-16 07:56:57 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Politics

For all of you liberal history buffs, the bombing of Iraq that Ron Paul was referring, happened under Clinton, you dolts!

2007-05-16 08:11:16 · update #1

17 answers

You know who Ron Paul's supporters are, don't you?
A lot of them can't even vote and just have to resort to inundating the Internet with their dribble.

2007-05-16 09:46:59 · answer #1 · answered by tttplttttt 5 · 0 5

I believe Ron Paul blamed our foreign policy with respect to the Middle East for causing the type of hatred that led to the attacks on 9/11.

2007-05-16 15:16:06 · answer #2 · answered by msi_cord 7 · 3 0

Actually if our government had enforced our laws and investigated all the Arab owned businesses in New York right after 9/11/01 we might have gotten to the bottom of the terrorist attacks. Instead the Government furthered their cause by limiting the ability of American Citizens to travel freely. 9/11/01 was absolutely and unequivocally the Government's fault. If our immigration laws and other laws had been enforced and our cargos had been inspected and our rules been followed, it would have been next to impossible for the 19 illegal Arabs to pretend to be model residents while plotting and scheming their terrorist attacks and it would have been next to impossible for those attacks to have been successful. It is absolutely the fault of the USA for failure to enforce the laws of the land and to protect our citizens from all enemies, foreign and domestic and our failure to protect our borders. Only morons can't understand that effective law enforcement would have protected us from those attacks. If our laws had been enforced, there would be no Sanctuary Cities acting in direct opposition to the laws of the land. If our laws had been enforced, illegal immigrants wouldn't have been able to get even a foothold to attack Fort Dix and where are the other cells hiding -- more in the sanctuary cities? When illegal immigrants can speak other languages in the presence of law abiding citizens, they can hide behind our lack of understanding of that language and can intiate a call to arms anywhere. Wake up and smell the roses dummy or should I say "Gunpowder"?

2007-05-16 15:08:10 · answer #3 · answered by MH/Citizens Protecting Rights! 5 · 2 0

What makes you such a moron that you would misrepresent what he said and believe the distortions made by Fox News?

Here's a copy of the transcript from the debate if you're interested in the truth, rather than smears.

MR. GOLER: Congressman Paul, I believe you are the only man on the stage who opposes the war in Iraq, who would bring the troops home as quickly as -- almost immediately, sir. Are you out of step with your party? Is your party out of step with the rest of the world? If either of those is the case, why are you seeking its nomination?

REP. PAUL: Well, I think the party has lost its way, because the conservative wing of the Republican Party always advocated a noninterventionist foreign policy.

Senator Robert Taft didn't even want to be in NATO. George Bush won the election in the year 2000 campaigning on a humble foreign policy -- no nation-building, no policing of the world. Republicans were elected to end the Korean War. The Republicans were elected to end the Vietnam War. There's a strong tradition of being anti-war in the Republican party. It is the constitutional position. It is the advice of the Founders to follow a non-interventionist foreign policy, stay out of entangling alliances, be friends with countries, negotiate and talk with them and trade with them.

Just think of the tremendous improvement -- relationships with Vietnam. We lost 60,000 men. We came home in defeat. Now we go over there and invest in Vietnam. So there's a lot of merit to the advice of the Founders and following the Constitution.

And my argument is that we shouldn't go to war so carelessly. (Bell rings.) When we do, the wars don't end.

MR. GOLER: Congressman, you don't think that changed with the 9/11 attacks, sir?

REP. PAUL: What changed?

MR. GOLER: The non-interventionist policies.

REP. PAUL: No. Non-intervention was a major contributing factor. Have you ever read the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we've been over there; we've been bombing Iraq for 10 years. We've been in the Middle East -- I think Reagan was right.

We don't understand the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics. So right now we're building an embassy in Iraq that's bigger than the Vatican. We're building 14 permanent bases. What would we say here if China was doing this in our country or in the Gulf of Mexico? We would be objecting. We need to look at what we do from the perspective of what would happen if somebody else did it to us. (Applause.)

MR. GOLER: Are you suggesting we invited the 9/11 attack, sir?

REP. PAUL: I'm suggesting that we listen to the people who attacked us and the reason they did it, and they are delighted that we're over there because Osama bin Laden has said, "I am glad you're over on our sand because we can target you so much easier." They have already now since that time -- (bell rings) -- have killed 3,400 of our men, and I don't think it was necessary.

MR. GIULIANI: Wendell, may I comment on that? That's really an extraordinary statement. That's an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the attack of September 11, that we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq. I don't think I've heard that before, and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for September 11th. (Applause, cheers.)

And I would ask the congressman to withdraw that comment and tell us that he didn't really mean that. (Applause.)

MR. GOLER: Congressman?

REP. PAUL: I believe very sincerely that the CIA is correct when they teach and talk about blowback. When we went into Iran in 1953 and installed the shah, yes, there was blowback. A reaction to that was the taking of our hostages and that persists. And if we ignore that, we ignore that at our own risk. If we think that we can do what we want around the world and not incite hatred, then we have a problem.

They don't come here to attack us because we're rich and we're free. They come and they attack us because we're over there. I mean, what would we think if we were -- if other foreign countries were doing that to us?

Where exactly did he blame America for 9/11? All he did was blame our warmongering foreign policy for contributing to it. Clinton had bombed Iraq as a smokescreen when the House was trying to impeach him. That infuriated Osama and led him to attack us on 9/11. Even the CIA mentioned this.

The claim that he blamed America for 9/11 is ridiculous.

Ron Paul isn't a liberal, so he actually did fairly good stopping Hannity's misrepresentation. Of course, he's finally made a name for himself by embarrassing both Giuliani and Hannity on national TV.

Don't be shocked if he wins the nomination. If he fails to take back the GOP from the Neo-Cons, the Democrats are going to win an even bigger landslide in 2008 because even more Republicans are going to switch to the Democrats in order to defeat Rudy Giuliani (for example, Richard Viguere, who paved the way for Reagen's victory by sending direct mailings intends to do whatever it takes to defeat Rudy in 08).

The Iraq War is a sinking ship and only Ron Paul among the Republicans was smart enough to stay off that ship from the beginning.

2007-05-16 15:48:30 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

First off, did you even watch the debate or are you doing the typical neocon thing of reading a sensationalized headline and making up the details in your own head.

He didn't blame the United States, he simply explained a cause and effect.

EVERYTHING has cause and effect.

The cause my not justify the effect to you, but it obvisouly does to some.

The CAUSE for 9/11 was US Foriegn Policy in the Middle East, the EFFECT was a sneak attack by Terrorist who disagree with our policy HENCE making it the CAUSE.

2007-05-16 15:12:43 · answer #5 · answered by Peace Maker 2 · 1 0

He was quoting hard CIA evidence that Arab animosity and hatred toward America is a direct result of our oppressive interventionalist policy toward the middle east.

How would you feel if Russia was bombing America for 15 years and setting up unwanted embassies and bases on our land? Get you head out you ***.

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2007-05-16 15:10:41 · answer #6 · answered by ladykofnyc 3 · 1 0

Here's what Michael Scheuer, the former station chief of the CIA's Osama Bin Laden task force, has to say:

"Osama Doesn't Hate Our Freedom: The fundamental flaw in our thinking about Bin Laden is that "Muslims hate and attack us for what we are and think, rather than what we do." Muslims are BOTHERED by our modernity, democracy, and sexuality, but they are rarely spurred to action unless American forces encroach on their lands. It's American foreign policy that enrages Osama and al-Qaida, not American culture and society."


Now-- have YOU spent 11 years of YOUR life in the CIA chasing down terrorists?


It's simple-minded people like YOU who argue that it's our culture and "freedom" that are to blame for Islamic terrorism. People who actually know the history of the Middle East and appreciate the ramifications our foreign policy has, like Congressman Paul SPEAK THE TRUTH because they UNDERSTAND the multi-faceted root causes.

Where as YOU are just another MORON who wants to rule the world.

2007-05-16 15:14:22 · answer #7 · answered by send_it_to_zoom 4 · 3 0

What makes Rudy lie about never hearing about blowback? Or do you just like liars?

EDIT: Ron Paul didn't blame America, or Bush (well, maybe indirectly), he blamed our foreign policy. Namely our LACK of a non-interventionistic policy.

And Enhanced Interrogation Technique is just NewSpeak for "Torture", which Rudy salivated over. At least McCain had some sense.

2007-05-16 15:02:40 · answer #8 · answered by ThomasS 5 · 5 1

Ron Paul is most obviously a clever man.

2007-05-16 15:28:33 · answer #9 · answered by Open your eyes 4 · 2 0

He didn't. He put the blame on our Middle East policies, not America. Anyone who disagrees with a policy or politician does not mean they hate/blame America.

2007-05-16 15:06:34 · answer #10 · answered by Liberals love America! 6 · 2 0

Newton's Third Law applies to politics as well as objects.

That's why Bush is losing his war. He is so delusional he doesn't know who he is fighting or why they are fighting us. The same can be said for the 28%ers supporting him who don't know either.

2007-05-16 15:17:00 · answer #11 · answered by latest_greatest 4 · 2 0

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