Do neoconservatives think Darwinism is a "liberal plot" to undermine christianity?

Answer 1

Ugh. Like they don't have enough stupid ideas, you've got to make up new ones for them?!

Answer 2

Interesting question, but probably more valid in R & S, where the people who want to debate religion hang out.

Yes, I said debate religion.

Because, in my humble opinion, having received a total education, in both the Origin theory of Darwin and young earth Creationism, I think they both boil down to religions: Unproveable and based wholly on faith.

That's assuming you are talking about the origin theory of Darwinism.

Darwin himself was a Marxist. Friend of Communism. I do think that Darwin was attempting to come up with a scientific theory in order to completely undermine Christianity, because one of the requirements that had to occur for communism to take control, was to rid people of their belief in a Creator/Savior. The people needed a new god, and that god became science.

Do not ask me what other "neoconservatives" believe. I don't even think we would agree on what a "neoconservative" is.

Answer 3

Comrade Olbermann - when you say evolution is "simply a THEORY" you are showing you have no concept of what science actually is. In science, facts form the bedrock, but theories are higher. Facts are measurable and observable natural phenomena. Theories are explanations of the facts and why they happen. Evolution is a theory, just like gravity or heliocentricity (the planets revolving round the sun).

Current evolutionary theory is no "plot" - it is a logical, rational explanation of the facts and observations about how species form, how characteristics change over successive generations, and how species adapt to fill their niche in the environment.

What disturbs a lot of fundamentalist christians (I say this rather than neoconservatives, because many neocons are rational educated people who have no problem with neo-Darwinism) is that evolution is a neutral theory - it doesn't prove the existence of God but neither does is disprove it. In the same way, just because modern medicine teaches that blood is pumped mechanically by the heart, and makes no reference to any god, does not mean that this theory of blood circulation should be decried as "atheistic".

I personally find it gratifying that if there is a God (I'm agnostic - I don't know whether there is or not), s/he has created in evolution a system of elegence and surprising simplicity that can be relied on to adapt to each new hurdle the world throws at it.

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Darwin was not a Marxist. Even if he was it would be irrelevent - the theory of evolution is (as all good theories are) completely neutral. The modern theory of evolution comprises many parts, of which Darwin's Origin of Species is just one (others include Mendel's theories on inheritence and modern molecular genetics), all of which have been rigorously tested, examined, and ultimately shown to be true over the course of many years. The supposed beliefs of one person who contributed to it makes no difference.

Marxism has nothing to do with evolution. Marxism says that there are forces which guide society inevitably down a certain path. Darwinism on the other hand postulates that there is nothing inevitable about how things evolve, only that species will evolve to be adapted to the environment they're in - quite the opposite of marxism in fact. It is also worth pointing out that the communists of the Soviet Union went so far as to reject outright Darwinian evolutionary theory in favor of the Lamarckian hypotheses of Lysenko.

I've heard people say evolution caused both marxism and naziism (odd considering that these hateful ideas are diametrically opposite to each other). As I'm sure Christians know, even the best theories and ideas can be misused for people's own evil ends. After all christianity has been used to justify many atrocities (the inquistion, the persecution of the heugnots, waves of anti-semitism, televangelism)

For more and better replies to myths like that one, see the link below.

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To Hurley:
I say I'm AGNOSTIC because I don't know if there is a divine power or not. For I know there could be a single God (he he/she/it Jehovah, Allah or the Flying Spaghetti Monster), a pantheon of Gods, or nothing - I simply just do not know (and to be honest I don't think humans ever will).

ATHEISTS are the ones say that there is no God. (Source 2)

Answer 4

Nothing can undermine Christianity. Darwinism, an unproven theory - not a law - simply denies the creation. To think that anything could undermine or thwart Jesus Christ is like thinking a flashlight could outshine the sun. Darwin made up his erroneous theory long before there were any modern day liberals on the scene.

Answer 5

Darwin's theory is a theory in the scientific sense and not in the "gee, I wonder if aliens live on Mars and have 17 arms" sort of thing. I grasp that from an English/Law background, so what on earth is so hard for other reasonable people --- ah, there's the rub --- to get about it.

They probably do think that, whether neoconservative or conservative from the factory floor. For some reason, the notion of evolution just drive them crazier than they already are.

Answer 6

The christian fundamentalists ones might hold a whacked conspiracy theory like that - these'd be the same ones that like to think the earth is flat, 6000 years old, and that moon landings were faked on a sound stage. Obviously, they're an even fringier lunatic fringe than the 9/11 conspiracy theorists on the other side of the aisle.

Answer 7

Darwinism has already been sanctified by the NeoCons. They believe in survival of the fittest. they believe in Social Darwinism. They believe that the most able to succeed will become successful, the rest will take the crumbs. They believe that the weak, intellectually inferior, mentally and physically handicapped are slackers. The individual is superior to the society or development of a culture. They believe that a shotgun in the home and a side arm on the hip is all the society one needs.

Answer 8

I am sure that there are some cookey conspiracy theorists among the consevatives just as there are some some cookey conspiracy theorists among the liberals and who claims that Osama is not real but an actor that works for the CIA. I myself side with the conservatives on most issue but I firmly believe in Evolution and find that the evidence to date is firm and irrefutable. They are basing medical treatments on it and they are having a lot of success. I am agnostic.

Answer 9

A great number of neocons are not all that religious and most certainly believe in evolution. After all, the average Republican has over 2 years more of formal education than the average Democrat. And yes, Christians, who happen to be the vast majority in this country, are constantly under attack for trying to express their religious freedom. Which happens to be the basic principle that this country was founded on. Religious freedom, does not mean free from religion!

Answer 10

I think neoconservatism is a zionist-christian right wing plot to undermine liberty,life and the pursuit of happiness on their part.They're trying really hard to make this great land into a big texas.But not all of us want to live in texas though.

Answer 11

I dteest this innane discussion - but evolution is not just a theory - atoms and molecules are theoretical constructs, but I don't hear anyone dismissing modern chemistry as 'just a theory.'

Try to move beyond your home schooling,and learn how scientists use the term 'theory'. It does not mean someone's idea. It is a conceptualization that explains and consolidates empirical imformation, and which had been subjected to rigid empirical testing. Evolution meets those requirements (big time) and is not likely to be disproven any time soon.