How did Democrats get so talented in waving the white flag of defeat?

Question

It takes a special 'something' only Democrats have to surrender so easily.

Answer 1

By watching republicans make a mess of things and never admitting to having been wrong.

Answer 2

Are you referring to our error in surrendering good sense to the whitehouse when we were lied to about the "intelligence"they never have had?

I guess we democrats will have to learn

Just because the president says something concerns our National security,

But if you are referring to our wanting cut off all funds to this war
did you say the same when republicans voted to cut off funds for the troops?
the GOP congress under Clinton voted to cut off funding for the troops fighting in Kosovo in order to end the war? Yet when they did it, it was not anti-American? But somehow as the Dems are getting ready to do the very same thing if Bush vetos the current bill, it IS anti-American? How very hypocritical of you mindless bushbots. It looks like the only ones that are anti-American are those of you that support putting our troops through the meat grinder in Iraq though you supported cutting the funds off to end that last war.
that does not make it true

Answer 3

Dems have always been weak. Look at Bill, instead of coming clean he lied and lied and lied some more to the American public. A strong person would have admitted he was wrong.

We lost Afghanistan?? I hadn't heard that one. We have not lost in Iraq yet either? What about Desert Storm that seemed a victory to me.

Vietnam's folly was allowing the politicians over here to control the war over there. I can see why President Bush does not want a timeline, that would make this war much more like Vietnam. IF there is going to be a timeline, I expect it to come from military commanders in Iraq not from democrats making a political statement. If the generals in Iraq believe in a timeline or benchmarks I support it 100%. However, we do not hear that from them. Democrats are the ones wanting to create this timeline.

Answer 4

Because it's not THEIR war. It all goes back to the hate campaign that was launched immediately after George Bush was elected, because sayanythingalgore was supposed to win. The so-called leaders of the democratic party were almost unanimous vowing not to cooperate with the incoming administration, and perpetuating the myth that the president is elected by popular vote. It's all about power. They will say and do anything including innuendos, half-truths, and outright lies to gain political advantage for their own agenda, which, sadly includes bowing down to the far left extremist that consider capitalist society to be intrinsically evil to begin with.
Therefore deliberately playing into our enemies hands.They are not above deserting their own president to acheive their ends. Remember Johnson who lied about the buildup of Viet-Nam? The disaster of that was left to Republicans to clean up. Remember jimmy carter virtually turning his back on our diplomats that were held hostage in Iran for over a year?
(It's interesting that when Iran's president was elected, our surviving members of that embassy fiasco indentified him as one of the hostage takers.)

Let's not forget big bad bill clinton wasting eight years looking the other way as the world trade center was bombed the first time, two embassies in Africa were turned to rubble, and of course the cole disaster in Yemen, all the while, he, and janet reno making administrative changes that made it more difficult for intelligence agencies to share information.

The simple fact is they WANT defeat. They have no reservstions about playing fast and loose with all our lives as long as they gain power. The scenes of terror and panic at the U.S. embassy as the north vietnamese rolled into Saigon, will be repeated in Bagdad, should a liberal democrate win the white house, and they will, of course blame the Republicans. This, of course is why they frame the debate of the conflict as another Vietnam.

If anyone is using the politics of fear to pander for votes it is the defeatocrates. ask yourself, why are they so afraid of success?

Answer 5

surrender to what?
to a war that it be required that we kill EVERYBODY to win?
it takes a more special someone to send more kids off to die and then to strip those that ask for a level headed revision of their patriotism, to strip them of their god and country.
who are you to squeak off about war, what do you know of war and tactics and defeat, and no i don't want a litany of questionably true experiences to frame up your answer.
tell me when we have won...when..when the al sadr's are all killed...(wait they are part of the "government" there)...do we kill all the shia, the sunni, the kurds?
what is an american forced to think if s/he never thought we should go there to begin with.
this is not a schoolyard game of kickball, this may be an unwinnable war but that is something that some of us can't grasp as we actually believe that bigger guns and larger forces can win a war that is only partly militaristic and partly theological.
i don't surrender wars, this is not a war and if you think it is you are wrong. this is now a police action in which our noble warriors have been miscast and are now dying.

and to you above...i do mind being ruled by evil people, i am ruled by one of them right now.
and to say that world is so much more than flowers and blah blah, indicated how little you are willing to learn about the other half of the country. you know, the more than half that voted for al gore.

Answer 6

Why is it surrender to leave a situation that we should never have been in to begin with? Why is it surrender to leave a situation that we can not have a chance in hell to win? The similarity with Vietnam is enormous. We were not wanted by the majority of citizens. It is not the best situation now for many of the citizens now, but it is what the majority wants. The same with Iraq. They have to decide what they want and they have decided that we are not wanted.

Answer 7

Did ANYONE else get your subtle fashion nuance in this question? Should it have gone in the fashion section instead? Of COURSE they wave WHITE FLAGS after labor day! This is the same party that wears Birkenstocks for heaven's sake.

Answer 8

there is a big difference between surrender and acknowledging that they don't have the slightest idea what the mission in Iraq has morphed into.
WMD = none
liberate the Iraqi people from a dictator = done
kill Saddam = done
install a puppet government = done
support puppet members of government = on going
suppressing factions within Iraq = on going
forcing an alien form of government on Iraq = on going
fulfilling GWB private agenda and being the war that defines his presidency = in progress

Answer 9

It isn't surrender, it is called LOVE and compassion for others, actual concern for other countries and peoples, it is called seeing that others have rights also. And feelings.
It is not about who is bigger and better and meaner and tougher.
It is about actually loving and caring and demcrats do this better than republicans.
Democrats know this and act accordingly.
It is like Chris Matthews said once, "The democrats are more compassionate."
And they are.
The republican party is all about controlling others.
The democrats actually see others needs and try to meet them in some way.
Democrats and republicans differ in their hearts.
A republican thinks, "If you can't make it, tough!"
The democrat says, "If you can't make it, let me try to help you along."

Answer 10

It is not about surrendering. It all about what is seen. Just answer this, is USA winning the war? Do you think they will ever win it? Do you know the color of the Iraqis terrorist uniforms? I don't think so, because you have never seen them.

That is what happen. USA is fighting against people they don't know. They just appear, blow up with a bunch of people, and disappear. Now, how can you fight against that?

Answer 11

Please understand that this is a prefabricated war. Long in the making, costly, and foolishly executed.

The rest of the world is in disagreement.

It costs over 4 million a week and after the war is "over" it will cost billions to rebuild.

Do you rally know the reasons for such a destruction? The high cost of innocent lives ? The billions of dollars wasted that will mostly benefit the profiteers of armaments and services?

Future generations will pay for this, much longer than any other war in the history of humankind.