what is so unacceptable about allowing smoking in public bars provided extractor fans are fitted?

Answer 1

Most bars have had fans for years, and they had little effect on the smoke or the smell of it. The smoke has to move slowly through the air to reach the fan, polluting everything in its path on the way. Additionally the fans, if they were ever switched on drew the heat out of the premises, which made them cold and draughty.

Answer 2

Extractor fans don't remove the smoke instantly. So, when you have a cigarette sitting on the bar or someone exhales, it still has to move upward. The other people around still inhale a fair amount until it is removed by the fan. Now, multiply the one smoker by 100 and you start to fill a room with smoke. No matter what you do, you can't be close enough to the fan and the travel distance from the mouth or the cigarette is where other non-smokers breath it in. It is the same concept as a house burning and putting a giant extractor fan above it. Regardless of how effective it is, the smoke will still be there for someone to breath in until the burning building has been extinguished.

Secondly, bars are technically for drinking (except designated cigar bars). I can't get someone drunk just by having a drink while sitting next to them. But, I can affect their lungs if I'm smoking next to them. You aren't forced to have a drink by walking into a bar but if someone is smoking, you really have no choice but to leave or inhale the second-hand smoke.

Answer 3

If efficient and effective extractors/ventilation were fitted then I doubt it would be unacceptable to then smoke in a public bar. [the force 9 gale produced by the kind of extraction needed might be unaceptable] I say that as a non smoker who is looking forward to the smoking ban in England coming into force.

The licencing trade knew a smoking ban had been mooted for years so can't realistically say they didn't see it coming. If they had taken the initiative and fitted decent effective ventilation to counter the negatives of smoking in an enclosed public space it may never have got to the point where legislation was needed.

Answer 4

you could ask the same question - what so unacceptable about someone farting beside you... or whats so unacceptable about someone doing a big curry burp in your presence.

fair enough a dirty habit might be a big part of your life, hurray im happy for you. just dont involve me.
the air was clear before the dirty individual came along and changed the status quo.
the natural state of clean air is acceptable to all and was there before the smoker.
the smoking happens to be changing the state of the air, the smoker came second, the clean air was there first. the change made some people unhappy - so the change is causing trouble, we dont want trouble so undo the change.
it causes cancer, i dont want cancer.
my health is not there to be abused so you can have pleasure.

**** you hrd2gt - die in a cancer ward you ******* idiot, why did you start smoking... hmmm lets see .... to get people to like you cause your such a ******* shallow excuse for a human being and educationally subnormal.

enjoy the rain when the ban comes in *** hole.

Answer 5

Extractor fans wont remove 100% of the smoke,

By the time it reaches a fan it will already have entered my lungs, poisoned me and others, and make my clothes stink to name but a few reasons.

Smoking may well be the thing to do whilst out socialising but the fact remains that it is an extremely antisocial habit.

The sooner the smoking ban comes into effect the better!

Answer 6

I don't know but the non-smokers need to keep their @sses home if we have to make bars smokefree...I mean give me a break. We pay enough in money in taxes for cigarettes. We should be allowed to enjoy our smoking in some places.

Answer 7

Because they would have to be of industrial strength to get rid of every bit of cigarette smoke.