Do you think Liberal's have a clear understanding about the war on terror and it's origins?

Question

OR will they give Islamic facism a "pass" opting rather to say, "freedom of relgion man", puff puff.

Answer 1

agreed rt66lt

Sequoa why don't you enlighten us with the latest from the bush propaganda machine?

Answer 2

War On Terror. Well lets go over it.

Republican leaders artificially propped up Middle East govts to keep them from going to communism during the Cold War which in most cases was a government exploiting its people for the enrichment of the elite.

Republican leaders equipped and trained the terrorists of today to be "freedom fighters" within the communist nations in the Middle East. Republicans also sold weapons to Iraq during Regan's Presidency.

Most Islamic groups said for years they opposed US forces being stationed in their lands and repeatedly told us to leave...we ignored them since the few in power needed us there to keep their grip on cash+power.

THESE are the roots of the "War on Terror" we face now, all planted by the conservatives, all FACTS no matter if you like them.

Are Conservatives to blame? No.
They did what they thought was right in the time they had to decide to try and prevent a large war. They could not have understood the changes that would occur when the USSR collapsed and left a power vaccum in the global community which terrorists could exploit. They had no idea the very face of conflict would change so drastically and that without a common foe those we trained would turn on us.

So to turn now and say liberals don't understand and are weak is not only silly, but very sad. Maybe if both sides could drop their "anyone who thinks differently is worse than a terrorist" mentality we could actually solve these issues and get on with life.

Answer 3

I have never said "Freedom of relgion man," but that is probably because I have no idea what relgion is. As far as terrorism goes, you should check out Reagan's policy on dealing with terrorists.

Oh, and one more thing, terrorism is not a religious issue. Only the ignorant believe that.

Answer 4

No I do not think liberals take the terrorism threat seriously enough. Take crazy Rosie O'Donnell's recent comment on The View for example:.."they're just people like you & me!" Well, let me tell you....I don't strap bombs on my back, worship their Allah who says it's ok to kill nonbelievers, (even women & children!), teach 12 yr. olds how to recapitate, or poison the minds of 5 yr. olds,
and if our government wants to listen in on ALL my phone calls that's ok with me if they're making me feel safer. How many 9-11's do we need in this country before people wake up to the fact that they want to kill us? Wake up America!!! By the way, Rosie just talks against OUR government, (and not all of the above done by the terrorists). Glad she's gone from The View. Good riddance Tokyo Rosie!

Answer 5

Clearly, the fact that you're more interested in dividing OUR country than actually working to unite this land, you seem to be intimately familiar with being a part of the war on terror.

Think about your actions and their ramifications, if you can stand the headaches...

Answer 6

I think if you want to understand it you need to know from the pre-islamic arabian society to the last 50 years of US policy in the middle east.

Sorry but the problem is not as simple as a CONS vs LIBERAL issue

Answer 7

Okay, admittedly, my understanding of the political/historical context of Islamic terroism isn't as in-depth as my understanding of, say, the impact of Asian market on labor unions or modern Ameri-European gender politics. But I do try to stay abreast of what is happening in the world at large, and terroism, particularly the fundamentalist Islamic variety, has been a subject of interest for the nation since 2001, so I do have some understanding of it.

Now, let's differentiate something right now: you asked about the "war on terror" and "its origins". The "war on terror" is a fairly simple concept. The phrase was coined by Bush (or someone working in his cabinet) sometime shortly after the attacks on September 11. Bush used this phrase ad nauseum to justify first the war in Afghanistan (from which the terrorists originated) and then the Iraqi war (which had nothing to do with 9/11). So that, essentially, is the origin of the "war on terror." However, since you reference "Islamic facism," I'm going to assume what you meant is the origins of the modern extremist Islamic movement.

The origins of Islamic terrorism (which is acts of violence intended to establish an Islamic theocracy) can be traced back to the fall of the Ottoman Empire after WW I. The Ottoman Empire, which included most of the Middle East, was divided among the European nations. This, of course, created the standard resentment among the Arab populace, but things didn't really start to heat up until the recognition of Israel in 1948, which was made possible by the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. So, what happened in the Middle East was the fall of a strong centralized government, throwing everything into chaos, with the addition of what was viewed by Rabs as outside forces (European nations and the Zionist Movement) taking land away from Arabs and giving it to the Jews. Prior to this, there had been escalating Jewish/Arab violence in the region, which has set the groundwork for and inflamed the current anti-Semitic views among many Muslims.

Modern Islamic terrorism began in 1968 after the Arab defeat in the Six Day War and the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. This was a crushing military defeat, and proved that the Arabs could not defeat Israel through traditional military means, so started to use surprise terroristic attacks. The Palestinian Liberation Organization was founded and immediately began spreading death and chaos with bombings, airplane hijackings, and the slaughter of the Israeli Olympic team in Munich in 1972. However, the terrorist originizations of the 70's were largely secular movements with a specific political goal in mind: the destruction of Israel.

Religion starts to play a major role in the 80's, beginning with the takeover of Iran by the Ayatollah Khomeni. This was a fundamentalist Islamic overthrow of the secular Iranian government under the Shah. The Shah had tried to Westernize Iran, and in so doing, drew the wrath of the country's religious leaders. There was also a growing trend of religious fundamentalism within Islam itself.

Fundamentalist philosophy lends itself to terrorism. The underlying assumption of the fundamentalist (of any religion) is that the current problems faced by a society and/or its peoples is due to those people/society turning away from the values of the prevalent religion. The fundamentalist interpretation of religious texts is strict and literal. Islamic extremists utilize an intepretation of the Quran to turn acts of terrorism into expressions of faith and devotion.

What comes out of the 80's is turning what was essentially a radical secular Arab terrorist movement into a radical fundamentalist Islamic terrorist movement. What also came out of the 80's was a further government destabilization, particularly with the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan, and also in Kashmir and African countries like Somalia. Its pretty much a rule of thumb that the absence of a strong centralized government leaves room for terrorists to move in, establish dominance, and form training camps.

During the last decade, terrorist organizations, which started as local secular political agendas, have expanded their goals to a global Islamic state. Given that these terrorist organizations operate independently from any established government, but also have ties and support from some established governments, we cannot fight them in ways that we have fought enemies in the past. It's simply not as clear-cut as "Germany is our enemy. Bomb and invade Germany, and we defeat our enemy." It is going to take a coordinated effort of law enforcement and military bodies throughout the world, as well as utilizing diplomacy to build allies in the region.

I think that about covers it.

Answer 8

Democrats and Republicans alike only have one clear understanding and that is money. If you want real change vote Libertarian or Unity08 party because they don't take contributions from taxes or big corporations like all of the puppets we have in office now.

Answer 9

I don't think anybody does. The people get there information from the press who taint it with their personal opinion. If they support the war they are going to show you the good points and no bad points if they don't they will show you how horrible it is. September 11 was not a inside job that is ridiculous.

Answer 10

Okay then, coward*, let's say it your way. Say we kill all the Muslims in the world and then make the religion illegal. Then what? The world becomes perfect? Hitler wasn't Muslim, McVeigh wasn't Muslim, Manson wasn't Muslim. Terrorism has been caused by Muslims. They've also been caused by Germans, want to kill all of them? And Russians, want to kill all of them? Or are you gonna finally take your head out your azz and recognize that Muslim isn't the root of terrorism, just one of many of it's perpetrators? Knowing you, you probably prefer your head in the warm confines of your anus, so logic isn't one of your best points.

Answer 11

What do you think the American Indians think. They have been fighting terrorism since 1492 that we know of and probably longer than that.