Dem's/liberals and Al-Qaida say the Iraq is a failure, are they on the same team?

Question

they both want us out of Iraq, one wants to do it to try to gain more influence here, the other want to do it to try to gain more influence there...bed fellow the two...do Dem's/liberals actually believe if we leave Iraq they will leave us alone...is this the naive perception on how they see the world...

i guess if during WW2 we listened to realist we would have pulled out after we lost over 12,000 men on D-day...

i see dem's/liberals are using name calling as their "tactics" why don't they answer the question...are they saying both do not want to influence the region they are living in...is it untrue that both want us out of Iraq...why don't they see their talk and the talk of our enemies are the same...doesn't that "click" their head...if i were al-qaida in iraq fight americans and i hear that one the major parties who has control in Congress is calling iraq a failure...i would rejoice with the news because my enemy is giving up...why has there been an increase in violence in iraq since the dems took office...

Answer 1

I notice from the first set of answers its the typical lib strategy, duck and dodge but under no circumstances should you answer the Q!

I think its important that everybody keep in mind liberals and terrorists have many things in common.

A. They both hate Bush and conservatives.

B. They dont want the war on terror.

C. They both love to hear bad news from Iraq because it means bad news for America, our troops, and Bush politically.

D. Both want a specific time to pullout of Iraq. One to jump up and say i told ya so when a civil war started, the other to know when to strike hardest to make it look like they drove us out.

E. Neither care much about our troops name-calling them and telling them they arent winning and arent going to win. (think of how your son would like to hear that from you before one of his sporting events or if he went to Iraq?)

F. Both want negotiations.

G. Both have problems with Israel.

H. Both want us to stay out of the middle east forever.

I. Both want terorrists to have the freedom to do what they want.

J. Both view America as the "great satan" globally.

L. Both DOUBLY hate our president!!!

M. Both quote the liberal medias talking points.

N. Both give the media valuable quotes to promote Bush hatred and America being the problem to everything.

And if theres any I left out, I apologize. Its kind of like pointing out all the similiarties between dumb and dumber!

Answer 2

Actually, it isn't a naive perception of the world... the Democrats are saying this because they realize that it is what the majority of the American population wants to hear. They also realize that once they have the presidency after this next election (an unfortunate occurrance in my own opinion), that they are going to have to put up or shut up, and that the pull-out is going to have the exact effect that Al-Qaida wants... the infadel is out of the area, and they are able to cause hate and havoc and civil war in the Persian Gulf area... where they will have the majority of the control as to what happens. Then, once the duly, and constitutionally-legally elected leadership of Iraq has completely lost control, the Al Qaida leadership can "support" the Iraqi people by placing their own choice into power.
THe sad part of this tale of woe is that the Democrats know for an absolute fact that it is completely true, as this all started in 1998, when a Democrat was in the White House... the fact that nothing was done until 2001 leads everyone to erroniously believe it is the Republicans who are totally responsible.

Answer 3

Iraq will never be a victory unless we are prepared to do two things. First, we will have to settle in for the long run. Our presence will have to be maintained for an indefinite number of years. (How long did we maintain a military presence in Germany?? and they were a well educated society) Second, we will have to change the way Iraqi's live through education.

My little brother is serving in Iraq and I pray he is safe. Through his experience, he believes that many Iraqi's (more than not) are thankful that we are there to help. The problem lies in the few who are willing to kill themselves to disrupt the lives of everyone around them - the only way to defeat them is to create an environment in which they have too much to live for. How long would that take and are we willing to commit to it?

If we can, then Iraq is not lost.

If we can't then Iraq is already lost.

But pray for those that are there.

Answer 4

The democrats have their hearts in the right place - I truly think their motivations are sincere and thought to be in the best interest of the soldiers and the country - unfortunately, they really seem to be oblivious to any eventual consequences of losing this war. That's perhaps where they should be using their brain instead of their hearts.
When they want to give the enemy a date to rejoice and celebrate their victory, well, that's just plain ignorant, if not downright stupid. And when their illustrious leader publicly throws in the towel, that's bordering on treason in my opinion.
I suspect they are singing from the same page - just for different reasons.

Answer 5

You logic may be a bit naive. Your analogy does quite fit. Many a Bush supporter has disagreed So did Bush's daddy during his Presidency

In his memoirs, A World Transformed, written more than five years ago, George Bush, Sr. wrote the following to explain why he didn't go after Saddam Hussein at the end of the Gulf War:

"Trying to eliminate Saddam .. would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible ... We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq ...there was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."

That was well before 9/11 and the constant threat of terror.

Answer 6

Learn the difference between stating a fact and judging the fact to be a good thing.

"do Dem's/liberals actually believe if we leave Iraq they will leave us alone"

LOL! A bunch of Sunnis and Shi'ites are going to stop blowing each other up and get on planes and come for us? What on Earth do you think is happening over there? It's a civil war - they don't care about us. The real terrorists there, the ones who want to hit us and not each other, are only there because our soldiers are easy targets. We can't destroy them there. They come and go as they please. They aren't going to fight us over there instead of over here, they'll just get on planes and come over here. They can do that any time they want. Our soldiers in Iraq aren't stopping them from doing that. That's why they use terrorism in the first place! You really need to think these things through and stop listening to the same old crap from Bush and Cheney!!!!!

Answer 7

The majority of the WORLD thinks Iraq is a failure and wants the US out - so by your "logic", does that mean most of the world & Al-Qaeda are on the same team?????? Is most of the world now supporting terrorism?????

Please extend your mind beyond US borders, instead of just focusing on "dems/liberals". Otherwise, you come across as "naive".

Dems/liberals on the same team with terrorists. Talk about "conspiracy theories" & "nut jobs".

Answer 8

Yeah, it's pretty sad really. They'll sell out the country to win political favor and votes.

They're gambling that they can repair the damage they cause by hoping the US (and the world) loses the war on terrorism.

Most of us don't want to take that chance.

Answer 9

Sadly people we love and admire will die in this conflict and sadly our leaders can't give in. I'm an old man (Agnostic) who will gladly die to end this terrorism, as a token to say "The West has no problems with Islam"

Answer 10

Why do you think of that we are on distinctive boats. No, all of us are crusing on an identical ocean interior an identical boat yet regrettably our ideas, movements, needs, acts, needs thoughts, and deeds are distinctive. you be conscious of why?coz we are egocentric and stay for self in basic terms, we will not care of others, we like ourselves in basic terms and not all. Its why the boat is an identical yet we are distinctive. thank you.