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are you what you live with?

how long before you start to forget who you are?

2007-05-05 13:50:04 · 22 answers · asked by lifeoutsidethecircle 3 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

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Yes, I think so. It's called "conditioning". There is cultural conditioning, there is conditioning from your parents and family, there is all sorts of it.

Of course, we are unaware of a lot of our conditioning. That's when meditation and other spiritual practices come in as useful.

Meditation is excellent. It is all about disidentifying with your thoughts, feelings, and emotions. You of course allow these things to happen, but you let them flow through you and you do not cling to them.

Another excellent thing to do is go live in a country quite different from yours. Be determined to stay somewhere for at least a year, hopefully much longer. You will quickly see first of all how different the people around you are, but then you will also quickly see just how conditioned you yourself are. What was so natural and "obvious" to you is now not at all. How can this be? Well, it IS.

I think, to answer your last question, that the majority of people have forgotten who they are. They are totally identified with a variety of aspects: gender, nationality, occupation, and much much more.

You are definitely not limited to what you live with. You are everything and nothing. What you see in your world is a reflection of your mind. The world just exists, but we see it via our own minds. Scientists have proven that the material world is basically nothing. When you look at anything it is made up of atoms. Those atoms are made of smaller particles, but mostly an atom is empty space. Therefore everything is mostly empty space. Through our own perceptions we turn this world of almost nothingness into something.

I would say that almost from birth we start to forget who we are. Possibly even before that if there is such thing as reincarnation.

2007-05-05 13:59:24 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Prisoners of War have gone through this sort of brainwashing for centuries. Tell someone something long enough and they will believe it. But these men and women were also isolated from the truth.

In daily life, when someone says something about you your choice is to believe what they say or ignore it. The best way to do this is to assess what it is the person has said, how this person feels about you and whether or not they have your best interest at heart, and whether or not you want to believe it is true.

Abused women are often told by their partners that they are ugly and that nobody would ever want to be in a relationship with them. These women get to where they believe it especially because they are being told this by someone who will say that they love them. Not coincidentally, abusive partners often isolate these women from their friends and family making it easier to abuse the women. (And there abused men but for the sake of not writing man/woman each and every time, I took the easy path.)

I have a friend who was told her father died before she was born. She believed this to be true, that she was fatherless. But the truth was, her father was alive. When she learned the new truth she replaced the lie with the truth.

You only forget who you are if you listen and agree with what is said. You can choose to say no, refuse to believe, and even repeat to yourself the opposite of what is said seeral times throughout the day, replacing the other person's lie with your own truth. If someone says you are boring you can say to yourself that you are scintillating, fabulous, exciting. Repeatedly. Over and over again. Day after day. Eventually, you won't have to say it because you will know it. It will be who you are because you believe it.

So yes, if you hear something often enough you will believe it, especially if you are completely cut off from any truth. But if you have the truth and the wherewithal to consider the source and choose not to believe, then yes, you can believe something you have heard often enough because you will be saying something different a hundredfold more often than anyone else can!

2007-05-05 14:03:05 · answer #2 · answered by Satia 4 · 2 0

I find this a very good question!
I do not believe what anybody sais if I do not feel it to be true in my heart. Words are spoken so easily, and often people say something they not honestly mean. This is not so that I judge that, as I do that indeed sometimes too.
But I also know from all this that words can be irritating, "a cloud" and only if these words truly resonate with what my intuition tells me, I do believe them.
If people say to you always the same thing, indeed also myself then start to doubt my own intuition from time to time and then I indeed "forget myself" and usually then do something "wrong" until I realize I just had needed in the first place to simply trust my intuition, which speaks a clearer language then all the chatter all the words around me.

2007-05-05 14:02:47 · answer #3 · answered by I love you too! 6 · 0 0

#1. It depends on the source. If my mother told me I was smart, I'd think she may just be saying so because she loves me. However, if a professor said so...it would hold more weight.

It also depends on the receiver, if an abusive boyfriend told me I was a loser, but I felt good about myself and had many other people in my life who told me otherwise...it would be hard to convince me of such. On the other hand, if I had low self-esteem and not much positive support else where...then I'd be more influenced.

#2. You are what you believe...

#3. Depends on how quickly you remember who you're not. Same as #1, but reversed.

2007-05-05 14:00:57 · answer #4 · answered by LUCKY3 6 · 2 0

Sometimes if you tell others a lie so much, you start to believe it yourself. This can happen with other things too. Many books by Jodi Picoult have to do with the theme of lying to one's self and believing it. However, if the truths get out, there can be a various array pf consequences.

2007-05-05 14:00:46 · answer #5 · answered by pink_panther5432 2 · 0 0

while it can have a influence, at the same time,, the opposite can happen, if you are told something long enough, and if you dont agree,,,,,, you can become determined to not agree,,,,
so projection can play a role,,, many ways
i think it really depends on the individual,, some are more easily influenced then others,,, some accept more easily what they are told,,,,, others question everything
i dont think you forget who you really are, though you may bury it for awhile, most usually come to get in touch with their true selfs,,,,, one way or another

2007-05-05 13:57:23 · answer #6 · answered by dlin333 7 · 1 0

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2016-10-04 10:50:31 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

This is a well known phenomenon, one variation of which is the "Stockholm Syndrome".

Knowledge of this tendency predates modern psychoanalysis, and was part of a sub-sub-plot in Shakespeare's "Taming of The Shrew" (Where the drunken Sly awakens to being told he is a wealthy Lord who has been in a coma fifteen years, and readily believes it).

2007-05-05 13:57:14 · answer #8 · answered by open4one 7 · 0 0

yes. if someone tells you something for years you will believe that it is true and will not remember what you where or how you where before this happened. if you listen long enough your thoughts and emotions will get the best of you eventually.

2007-05-05 15:21:32 · answer #9 · answered by Swazowski2 3 · 0 0

Only if YOU are the one telling yourself that thing.

And of course, if you are told something from a very young age, then yes, you will likely believe it.

But if you are old enough to question something, you are old enough to choose what you will believe about yourself.

2007-05-05 13:54:13 · answer #10 · answered by scruffycat 7 · 0 0

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