Why is it ok for NAMBLA to have rights?

Question

I have really gotten upset that there are such groups as NAMBLA that get away with doing what they do. The ACLU gave protected their "right to free speech" to "talk" about having sex with under age boys. Do you think the ACLU would defend me if i started a Group about killing Liberals? [of course i don't believe this would be right] but you have to be consistent in your beliefs right? Whats the difference between saying, you want to potentially hurt and distroy a young boys life and threaten a persons life [which IS against the law] you cant go around stating you are going to beat someone up, thats a threat.

what is the difference.

PoopsMagee NAMBLA is 100% not a joke, it is real.

and i hate the ACLU, they state they protect peoples rights to free speech but i think they do more hard than good.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=18029

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200402270920.asp

http://www.aclu.org/freespeech/protest/11289prs20000831.html
[they state they don't avocate sex between a child and adult but they defend that person who does, i would never defend a person who did drugs, i dont agree with that.]

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/LAW/01/08/nambla.suit.crim/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000831/aponline171914_000.htm

I DIDNT HEAR THIS OFF FOX NEWS
[why do people asume you watch friggin FOX news]

NO actutally you are right i don't get it. I don't get it at all. I understand that people have the right to free speech to talk about what ever they want, but when it comes to HURTING another human, why is it still ok. THATS the part I don't get. I dont have a problem with free speech but when it creates a gateway for adults to discuss having sex with minors to hurt their heart and soul. THATS WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH and don't understand why thats ok.

Don't take it personally

Answer 1

I don't think it is okay. We don't give criminals the right to have their own special interest group. Oh, right, with NAMBLA, we do.

It makes no sense. Yet every Congressional session, there is a bill to lower the age of consent.

Answer 2

Free speech is free speech, other than hate speech.

I think NAMBLA are a haven for sick people, however, that doesn't negate their rights according to what you want. The issue becomes when it goes from speech to acting on it. That is against the law!

I don't like the KKK or other red-neck groups from the South, but they maintain their rights under the Constitution.

I don't understand at times how people go about deciding, in their view, who is protected and who isn't. That the ACLU gave them access to the court does not reflect in anyway on the ACLU. They are doing their job. People, under the constitution also have a right to access the court system. Not just the wealthy!

And please, all Democrats aren't liberals, though you would like to paint them with the same brush!

Answer 3

This is the very core reason why The United States of America is the greatest country in the world. As much as you despise them for their rights, you have every right to picket them or speak out against them at every opportunity.

BUT, both of you have to protect each other's rights for the next group of whom both of you may disagree with.

This is free speech at it's very core value. Taking what a group or individual says and defending it even though you have a personal stand against that stated belief. This is Democracy 101.

Answer 4

"The ACLU gave protected their "right to free speech" to "talk" about having sex with under age boys."

Sigh. No, they didn't. That's the Bill O'Reillys of this world want you to believe but the facts of the case are different. The facts are out there in case anyone is interested in reading the facts. However I doubt that the right will give up this talking point, regardless of what the truth is. I wil tell you one thing. The legal principle involved in the NAMBLA case could easily apply to the NRA as well.

Answer 5

The ACLU is not judgmental in respect to civil rights. If you have a right to do or say something then the ACLU supports your right to do or say it. It's similar to Karma. There is no good or bad it's simply the consequences of actions. If you slap some one hard enough, (action)...They'll fall down, (results or consequences) I don't care for NAMBLA but they can speak even if I don't agree. NOW... If any one should molest a child then they should be removed from society.

Answer 6

There is a little bit of a difference between promoting the murder of someone and promoting 'loving' relationships with underage boys. Besides, isn't NAMBLA a joke?

Also, the ACLU is non-partisan and defends the rights of the constitution. It always amazes me when ever someone criticizes them. Ridiculous.

Answer 7

the law isn't perfect.
and the ACLU would defend anyone who was having their rights violated. they're blind to who you are and what you do
thats what makes them so wonderful

what we should do is allow shrinks to conduct that study to see if sex at a young age hurts kids- just to have it written down. NAMBLA and Butterfly Kisses say that sex at a young age is good, it'd be nice to have a study to disprove them

just remember the more they write the easier it is to catch them

Answer 8

If we go about restricting rights to free speech and assembly to certain groups, then that could blossom into censorship of any group that doesn't fit a political agenda.

though NAMBLA and other groups of that sort are advocating disgusting practices, they still have the right to that advocacy and the expression of that advocacy.

Answer 9

you don't get it... do you...

they would protect your rights no matter what... they protected Rush Limbaugh... do you think he agrees with them?

again... conservatvies running their mouths and not a clue about what they are discussing...

if you start drawing lines on only protecthing speech on things you agree with... that's dangerous...

granted, this may be a gray area... but history in this case shows, it's better to give too much freedom than restrict it...

why are conservaties always crowing about how much they love America and freedom always the first to want to take fundamental freedoms away when something disagrees with them?

Answer 10

People and groups have the legal right to talk about whatever they please. Like you, I also find NAMBLA disgusting, but instead of violating their First Amendment rights or anyone else's, I advocate passing laws to protect children from perverts like the NAMBLA members.