Do you agree that if we had PR the BNP would be the largest party in England within 20 years?

Question

It seems everyone I speak to agrees they would vote BNP if they thought they had a chance.

Answer 1

No.

Answer 2

No. And the reason being, that common sense will prevail over stupidity. It has time and time again throughout the history of the world.

The BNP actually talk common sense sometimes, but because of their racist rants that generally follow, they lack the credibility.

I am what would be deemed an intelligent white collar (no racism intended) worker. I vote. I take issue with illegal immigration, bogus asylum seeker claims, the education system, the national health service, the dole bludgers (all dole bludgers) and a 100 things that have declined in this country for the last 20 years.

The problem is that the BNP is inherently racist. Racists are a minority in this country, thankfully.

If the BNP ever mature and see beyond skin colour, then they might have a chance. But I fear that someone (another political party) will pip them to the post with the credibility to win my vote.

They talk the talk, but in reality they can't walk the walk, they are a bunch of blokes who have no political or economic experience. Most voters understand this..... even the oiks.

I'm not sure on how you are using the term PR.... I took it as public relations... but another answerer put it as proportional representation.... but if its the latter, you simply won't achieve it.
What I'm saying is PR can't buy you credibility.

Answer 3

No - just look how unimpressively they polled across the country on Thursday, and that was in the face of an apparent backlash against the Government's immigration policy. 10 seats gained, 8 seats lost, yet the Party was hoping to double its share of councillors to the 100 mark. One ward saw a 20 per cent swing against the BNP and TO Labour.

Basically, the BNP does not have the policies, capability or support to ever govern, not in 20 years, not in a hundred years. Even the fascists could not cut it, and that was in the middle of the Great Depression.

As to everyone you speak to saying they'd vote BNP if they had a chance, well that's your own subjective experience alone and not a quantitative representation of what's going on in the country. Also, we tend to spend more time when given the choice with people who share our own views, which skews what feedback you get.

Answer 4

It is possible, but but PR packaging and spin doctoring can only achieve so much ask Tony Blair. His Pr spin doctor was thrown out only to enter Sir Alan Sugars ( Amstrad fame) reality TV show and was sacked from that.

The overall key to success for the BNP is to be effective in delivering results to the people and the nation, achieve that and the answer is a resounding yes.

Mr scepts reply is misleading and untrue the BNP did not contest 10,000 seats as he implies, and anyone that listens to him should suspect as I do he is probably being paid in his attempts to discredit the BNP. He unfortunately speaks and spreads all manner of mistruths about the BNP. He also speaks of democracy yet seeks to deny it, he speaks of humanity and seeks to deny it and so on. He actually sounds very much like a dysfunctional labourite in a mid life crisis.

That being the case he should go on to the Economic League and Caprim website. In the knowledge of those two sites it may silence him in his unjust critique of what he doesn't know.

BNP are the only credible alternative but lets not wait 20 years. We need them in power now, so all BNP supporters use your influence, and non BNP supporters find out the truth!!

Answer 5

Only if there's a massive flu epidemic that doesn't affect BNP voters.
They tried getting MSP's into the Scottish Parliament using the proportional representation vote. How many did they get? None, because you don't get any when the most votes you poll in any one area is under two percent of the votes cast.

That, old fruit, is how unrealistic your statement is. You need to learn to walk before you can consider running and I don't think the BNP have even reached the crawling stage.

Answer 6

I have noticed during my 65 years as a political animal, that what people may indicate in a poll survey or from anecdotal evidence, rarely indicates their actual voting choice.

The voting booth is 'very private'.

Some people may simply feel under pressure to give an off the cuff answer, especially if it is one thrust at them by someone who seems threatening.

Anything to avoid a confrontation.

It's known as the Viking Syndrome - a lot of Brits suffer from this - fear of confrontation. What they say is not what they intend to do.

The pollsters nearly always get it wrong. Winston will win the 1945 election etc., he did not. Both the Daily Mail and Express actually put their first editions out on the streets with the headline that Winston Wins - wrong.

Answer 7

I don't know! But PR (proportional representation) is not the road to go along for any voter. Some people believe it is a fairer way for political parties. In fact, you only have to look at countries who favour this way of voting ie, Germany - the different parties involved never totally agree on anything and so policies get shelved and nothing is ever achieved. Surely, we all agree that our political masters waste our taxes as it is, imagine how easier it would be for them if we had PR. First past the post is the best way, a way tried and tested, so I always vote for ONE person on a ballot paper. Let's hope that our future government after this year will be able to get rid of some of the stupid political correct garbage that we have to deal with and find some people with, not only good brains, but some common sense.

Answer 8

No, I really don't think they would. People are far more comfortable with mainstream politics than with reactionary parties. The British National Party simply have current support due to people's discomfort with recent immigration trends, after all a scapegoat is always needed to inflame public opinion.
However, the British National Party is, as it says, a British based organisation; it is NOT the National Socialist German Workers Party (or NAZI for short), for that would be, as it suggests, a German based organisation.
Some of the comments on this site have been very interesting, as they suggest a lack of intelligence for supporters of far right politics, which in turn suggests a higher degree of the same for those who seek to oppose it.
There are thugs and assholes in just about every walk of life and I've met them from both the left and right sides of the fence, but they have all had one thing in common (apart from beer, possibly) and that was courage of their conviction; if our mainstream politicians only showed some of this, there would be no place for extremists in politics. As it is, Westminster seems full of cowards, far too scared of losing their seats or cabinet positions by addressing what are obviously important issues for people in this country.

Answer 9

How many votes did the BNP get in yesterday's elections?

Answer 10

No. The BNP put forward a record number of candidates at the local council elections and got battered. They won 10 seats out of 10 000 contested in England. They won nothing in Scotland and Wales.

The British people has made their disdain for the racist policies of the BNP clear. Apart from a hardcore of racists and Nazis, they reject the BNP absolutely.

Perhaps you ought to try to speak to some nicer people.

Answer 11

ok here's one for you? if the next goverment that got into power said that all imigrants that have entered this country in the last 20yrs regardless of what employment they have brought to this country since being here had to be deported back to thier original country! would you vote for them instead?
my answer to your question is NO as most BNP candidates are racist scum and we have too much of that around the world already?