Riddle me this: If there have been SEVEN previous Ice Ages?

Question

before the Industrial Revolution (it's a fact, look it up), with the resulting global warming that melted the ice THEN, how can anyone with a scrap of common sense say that any global warming we may have today isn't the result of the same thing that melted the ice before? Did the Neanderthals have SUV's and factories? Why have we found no evidence of this?

Okay, rabid Left-wingers, try to answer this without insults and calling me stupid. I know that's a common tactic, but I'm trying to have a dialogue here. Show that your grown-up enough to do this.

We have a winner!
gunsmith_cat99 avoided the issue and went for the insult; I knew ONE of you wouldn't let me down. The rest of you, whether you agreed with me or not at least tried to prove your case RATIONALLY, and I thank you very much for that! I know that this can be an emotional issue, and the rest of you stepped up to the challenge.

"Dialogues lead to understanding; confrontation leads to segregation of beliefs."

N. Cognito, you're a winner, too!

Nothing to add but visceral hatred! Thanks for playing, and for not being able to do what a majority of people who disagreed with me were able to do: To present your case RATIONALLY.

I can't say that anyone has changed my mind, but I really do appreciate the effort made by both sides to keep this dialogue going.

Answer 1

I sure better get a recognition for this...

See Mitch, Earth is like kimchee...
You let it set long enough and 'things' warm up a little... There is no set temp for the kimchee... some times the kimchee is hot. some times it is not so hot. But just like earth there is no set temp.

Right now this big old jar of kimchee (earth) is brewing in it's jar... getting warmer... and will do so until it feels it is too hot or until all the Beatles and Kennedies are dead...
At that point the big old jar of kimchee will be taken by God (immagine Jerry Gacia for a moment...) and Jerry... or rather God will take the earth and put it in the fridge... so it won't spoil... then Jerry... Sorry, God will take a big bit of the kimchee and chaos will follow and he will have holy burning poopies for a few days (eons)... and the earth will cool and warm all over again until Jerry ... Sorry again, God decides he wants another bite...

That and the order of what lemming decides to run first and a hattian Zombie... and you can control the world... that is now warming up...

I wonder what he uses for toilet paper? the Amazon forest or the redwoods???

I need to got to sleep...
Have a terrific day!

Answer 2

Volcano and other earth eruptions have added to the greenhouse effect over 3 billion years or more.

Another is that the earth has been hit by meteors more than once in its existence.

Then there is the land mass creep over those 3 billion years also has added to great changes in weather pattens.

If we compare the population growth factor over the past 30,000 years and compare the earth's population of today, then there is a lot of data left out of the equation.

However, my guess is that all those dinosaurs let off so much methane gas during their existence, which eventually effected the ozone layer and caused the biggest ice age in existence of the earth. And that's what eventually exterminated them, too much methane.

I think someone must have invented fire about that time and caused a lot of explosions around the earth, in the big bang theory.

Just imaging the stink, gee talk about petrochemical factories and their smells. What about dinosaurs farts and their droppings. You wouldn't want to stand in one of those pats.

Answer 3

Before there were a lot less people and no one knew anything about such things as global warming. If it got cold and they didn't adapt they frize to death. If the food dissapeared because of to hot ten either move or starve to death. Some of out ansesters adapted ans some did not. This is the process of evolution.

Now we know what is hppening and in part why. Knowing this causes us to be afraid of the future.

We adapt or die it is just thatsimple. There will be many die and I d mean many.

Yes man is a big part of the reason it is happening so fast and soon. It was going to happen anyway but slower.

Answer 4

Thank you! I have always maintained that this GW stuff is just an industry, all propaganda to scare us. I live thru the times when we were frighted with the A Bomb and had to jump under our desks at school. As if that would have protected us. The govt had a whole generation of little kids scared out our wits. Then came the overpopulation scare of the 70's, them the WMD's, and now this. It's all rubbish. The world is unfolding as it should...except we are paying more and getting less. It's a business, just a business and profit is the game.$$$$$

Answer 5

Your not stating anything new. The whole global warming presentation is built on facts you just mentioned. The concern is that this cycle will be stopped forever like on Venus. Rase different questions such as:Does space temperature change, how much of a factor are sun spots. How much of a factors is all the microwaves being put into atmosphere.

Answer 6

I totally agree and I cannot for the life of me understand why (most) people won't at least consider the fact that perhaps the global warming phenomenon is apart of the Earth's natural cycle.
With much of the scientific data out there, I concede that perhaps humanity has caused this effect to increase at a faster rate than that which may have occurred naturally. But if anyone attempts to say that global warming is solely man's fault, they are ignoring the facts.

Answer 7

I agree with Jim M. It is a natural process, but man-made meddling with the environment has stepped up the process.

It is nice that you use the words "rabid left-wingers" and and insult like "scrap of common sense" and yet you wish to be treated as a grown-up?

I like to call the right-wing nut cases who have no common sense as to believe that the earth is warming the "flat earth believers". I am sure Columbus had the same problems. Despite scientific proof that the earth is round, he probably met with some simple minded people who could not grasp that the world was not flat, just because it looks flat.

The new century's "Flat Earth Believers" are the ring-wing neo-cons who reject any science they feel they don't like. Just like you, the people who cannot seem to grasp the simple concept that we have polluted our world and it is causing changes.

Must be nice living in a Flat World.

UPDATE: Since you provided no scientific debate, I assumed a simple cause and effect response would suffice for you. But since it seems you have managed to avoid reading a newspaper for about 30 years, I will enlighten you:

Human activity has released excess carbon emmisions over the years. Carbon does not dissipitate in the atmosphere easily, it stays, as carbon and methane (the dying of animals) gas builds, the gas heats up and warms the planet. The natural cycle that the earth goes through is speeding up. Instead of taking hundreds or thousands of years, at a speed at which animals and plants are able to adapt to, we are having the warming occur in a matter of a couple of decades, a speed that does not permit adaption. We are at risk of hundreds of species of plants and animals dying off, not to mention the harm that will come to us.

Hope you find that a little easier to understand. If you can't I truly feel sorry for you.

Answer 8

I am sure that "global warming" theorists have their merit ,and am equally sure that "Mother nature " doesn't give a s*** about them. Earths cycles are totally(mostly) out of the controll of man,(We can't even keep our cities from flooding during Hurricanes and we have ten of those a year). Politicians(all parties) make their living on fear,we hire them to protect us with their great plans, who's more valuable then the guy that will save the Earth. Not that Global warming isn't real ,I'm sure that it is ,but... I agree that is an "Earth cycle" that we are going to have to deal with the affects of as they arrive.
2c from a lib. Peace.

Answer 9

Natural global warming is one thing but we are accelerating it at a rate the earth is having trouble keeping up with. I'm going to go with the majority of the scientific community. Is it really that big of a hassle to do your part for the environment? People need to stop lying to themselves and just accept that they're going to have to make some lifestyle changes if they want future generations to have a liveable planet.

Answer 10

It has been my contention all along that we can not deny that the climate is changing. As you point out, it has before and it will again. That is part of the cycles of the earth. Now could man activities be accelerating or enhancing the natural cyclical changes? Possibly Could man hope to have any kind of noticeable effect on the climate change by stopping ALL of our activities? No, I do not believe we can stop what has been the normal cyclical nature of the earth climate.