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The 9/11 conspiracy believers have always said that fire can't melt steel and concrete.....How do you explain the collapse of the highway overpass in Oakland after a single gasoline tanker truck caught fire underneath it???

2007-04-30 14:37:37 · 13 answers · asked by missourim43 6 in News & Events Other - News & Events

13 answers

Yes, you are right. A gasoline tanker crashed and burst into flames near the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge creating such intense heat that a stretch of highway melted and collapsed.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/29/highway.collapse.ap/index.html

In 2004. a similar incident happened in Detroit Michigan on the eastbound elevated exit ramp from I-75 to I-94. The elevated ramp did not collapse after the gasoline tanker truck caught fire but it was irrepairably damaged, and so unstable that all traffic was re-routed for perhaps a year before it was finally replaced.

Burning gasoline has a temperature above 1500° E (945° C). Therefore, it can heat objects in the fire area above its ignition temperature.
http://www.columbusfire.net/fire/gasoline.shtml

Steel is not an element. It is a compound. The melting point of steel depends on the mixture of the elements it contains.

Iron (Fe) is an element that is the main component of steel. The "melting point" of iron is
1535.0 °C (1808.15 K, 2795.0 °F)
http://www.chemicalelements.com/elements/fe.html

Steel is an alloy comprised mostly of iron, with a carbon content between 0.02 % and 1.7 % by weight, depending on grade. Carbon is the most cost-effective alloying material for iron, but various other alloying elements are used such as manganese and tungsten.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel

At what temperature does a floor truss begin to sag if it is not coated in fire-resistant insulation? How hot can a fire burn if it is well (very well) ventilated? 1000 degrees F? 2000 degrees F? According to NASA jet fuel CAN burn as hot as 3000 degrees F. See this video to understand how the WTC tower 1 and 2 collapsed...the drywall was the "inside agent"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0u3XAYkIs

The high temperatures of the burning jet fuel, steel, plastics and other components made the whole area intensely hot and structures nearby were irrepairably damaged (building 7).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XImQ6a-VrnA&mode=related&search=

Larry Silversteing, building owner and FDNY pulled building 7.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C3E-26oVIIs

On "The View " Rosie O'Donnell adamantly declared that, "it was the first time in history that fire melted steel' (in building 7 of WTC).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba6j2k6wzdQ&mode=related&search=.

She begins her tirade with, "Historically have governments ever faked incidents or incited incidents to get them into war."
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fPtEQk0k3YI

2007-04-30 22:16:46 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

That fire didn't melt either the steel or the concrete, but it did soften the steel to the point where it had no ability to bear weight, in other words, soft.
As far as concrete and fire, as long as their is moisture in any concrete it is subject to actually explode from the internal steam build up, thus teh road can be ruined.
Steel can be melted, but it will normaly take more than an open fire to do it. Burning torches are one good example, a concentrated heat source, much hotter than open fire.

2007-04-30 14:48:28 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

It's not true that "The 9/11 conspiracy believers have always said that fire can't melt steel and concrete.." They are not a homogenous group with one view.

2007-04-30 21:17:24 · answer #3 · answered by L 3 · 1 0

Well, I don't buy into all these conspiracies, but different steels and metals melt at different temperatures. Concrete doesn't melt but can be damaged by heat, and again different grades of concrete will react at different temperatures.

Gasoline is not used in jets, it's jet fuel which is close to kerosene which is close to diesel. All of which have different flash points, the temperature they start on fire. And the maximum heat generated by them is all different. Then you can always add oxidizers which add more oxygen, with more oxygen you can get a more intense and hotter fire.

So, you see there are so many variables it's "unfair" to compare one to the other.

2007-04-30 14:59:04 · answer #4 · answered by gino 3 · 1 1

I don't know what that has to do with the 9/11 conspiracy. But really - a friend told me about that before I saw it on the news and I didn't believe him at all. "Riiiiiiiight. The freeway melted. Bull." It doesn't melt concrete, but that steel was liquified.

2007-04-30 14:40:43 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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2016-11-23 18:47:30 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

It's another Bush-engineered conspiracy..! He's anti-gay and since Frisco has so many he's going to destroy the city one overpass at a time.

2007-04-30 18:14:10 · answer #7 · answered by Chug-a-Lug 7 · 3 0

I don't believe in the conspiracy theory, but gasoline burns hotter than jet fuel (about 2000 degrees for Jet fuel; 15000 degrees for unleaded).

2007-04-30 14:41:34 · answer #8 · answered by Mickey Mouse Spears 7 · 2 0

There was never any conspiracy or excuse for the Towers
falling, just a bunch of people shining their soap boxes to tell
everyone else that their way is the only way it could have happened. Terrorists hijacked those planes not government employees screaming for the attention they couldn't get! That wound has yet to heal why pour some more salt on it!!!!

2007-04-30 14:48:15 · answer #9 · answered by Williamstown 5 · 3 2

Easy. Check this:
http://stopthelie.com/freeway_collapse.html

2007-04-30 20:38:36 · answer #10 · answered by V 4 · 0 0

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