3 to 3 tie in the bottom of the 9th inning, bases loaded, no outs:
If the batter hits a home run, the final score is 7-3.
If the batter hits a ground rule double, the final score is 4-3.
Why shouldn't it be 5-3 according to the "ground rules?
Please let me know your thoughts.
Thanks,
a confused baseball fan
2007-04-30 12:19:31 · 6 answers · asked by Dennis K 1 in Sports ➔ Baseball
Final is 4-3 on the (otherwise) ground rule double, as the ball's flight landed "in play", whereas a home run lands "out of play".
MLB Rule 4.11 (abridged):
The score of a regulation game is the total number of runs scored by each team at the moment the game ends.
(c) If the home team scores the winning run in its half of the ninth inning (or its half of an extra inning after a tie), the game ends immediately when the winning run is scored. EXCEPTION: If the last batter in a game hits a home run out of the playing field, the batter-runner and all runners on base are permitted to score, in accordance with the base-running rules, and the game ends when the batter-runner touches home plate.
APPROVED RULING: The batter hits a home run out of the playing field to win the game in the last half of the ninth or an extra inning, but is called out for passing a preceding runner. The game ends immediately when the winning run is scored.
The "approved ruling" is what happened when Ventura hit a grand slam to end a playoff game in 1999... a preceding runner abandoned the basepath, Ventura didn't realize it and was ruled to have passed his teammate and called out, the homer annulled, and since only the runner from third was needed to score the winning run, Ventura got a single.
2007-04-30 13:57:17 · answer #1 · answered by Chipmaker Authentic 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
According to the rules the batter is only credited with the number of bases need to allow the winning run to score in the bottom of the last inning.
In your scenario it is either a home run 7-3 final or a single 4-3 final. The "ground rules" cannot override a book rule.
PS -- a fair batted ball that bounces over a fence in fair or foul territory is a book rule double, not ground rule double. It is a two base award stated in the rules book.
2007-05-01 01:22:10 · answer #2 · answered by david w 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
it would be 4-3, and the ground rule double is actually scored a single. the moment the first run scores the game is over, hitter gets 1 rbi, and a single. This is in the rule book but I'm not taking the time for a source or website, sorry but I guarantee this is correct
2007-04-30 12:43:47 · answer #3 · answered by Will W 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I agree - I think the score would be 5-3, since it goes as a double (because of the "ground rule" on the hit). If the ball happened to go over the outfielder's head, but not over the fence, it would be scored as a single. I'm unable to confirm this.
2007-04-30 12:36:41 · answer #4 · answered by supersafetyman123 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
good question because if the bases are loaded and someone hits a grand slam all 4 runs count. so why dont 2 runs count for a ground rule double
2016-05-17 13:43:04 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
i think you're wrong. the score would be 5-3
2007-04-30 12:23:07 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋