Would Jesus have invaded Iraq ?Or would he have spent money on social programs?

Question

The conservatives seem to preach Jesus and yet they are against

Universal health care
A social safety net
A fair tax syestem
A higher standard of living for the poor the welfare bums and so on

How is it that the conservatives who thump that bible so hard justify any of their stances on war and some detail like stem cel research when they make and buy bio chemical weapons and nuclear warheads at a rate that no other nation could hope to attain

Are the conservatives who make these so called moral stances just a bunch of liars and hypocrites - that do not "love their nieghbor as themselves ?

Godly Re…

Look at all the trouble we could have avoided if they'd only had thorazine back in the day

Answer 1

Jesus was absolutely a liberal. I don't believe he was a god, and I know there's no way he's coming back, but wow, if he did, the conservatives would be the first ones he'd "throw out of the temple," so to speak. Wouldn't be pleased with those guys at all, I'm sure.

Answer 2

you've made very good points. The truth is, there are 2 types of conservatives. There are the rich who just plain don't care about anyone else but their own pocket books. They will hide behind the bible to justifiy their actions. Whatever it takes, they will do it for their own benefit. Then, there are the poor kind, which are a bunch of dumb followers who love to hop on a bandwagon of the rich conservatives. They buy into all the rhetoric and believe in what the rich says blindly because they think that is patriotic...to be a obedient doggy. So to answer your first question. Jesus would not invade Iraq, rather he would go to Iraq and talk things out with whoever....give money to the poor, that is the true spirit of JC.

Great post

Answer 3

Had he an army behind him, Jesus might well have marched on wicked Babylon, yes. Jesus only had 12 guys, though, and only 1 of them had military experience, so it would have been sheer folly. The pacificsm angle made a lot more sense - didn't keep him from getting nailed to a cross by the Romans, though, but it probably delayed it a good bit.

Jesus was all for charity, of course - he was always preaching that his followers should give thier wealth to the poor. He didn't send Judas and Mathew around to collect taxes and re-distribute the wealth, though, so, no, I doubt he'd've been too enthused about creating a massive government to do what people should do out of the kindness of their hearts and for the good of thier souls.


Just my opinion as an Atheist who's read a little of the bible.

Answer 4

As far as I know, Jesus never invaded anything. Neocons edit the bible to say what they want it to say and omit the parts they do not like. They say that life is sacred and should be protected but have no qualms about launching a shock and awe campaign in the middle of a crowded city of innocents. They and their president have caused a river of blood to run thru Iraq. I cannot for the life of me believe that God approves of this. Talk is cheap. You can wave the flag and sing the national anthem until hell freezes over but that does not make you a patriot or a good American. You can talk religious rhetoric also 24/7 but that does not make you a Christian and their behavior is anything but Christ-like. You can speak of morality until your lips fall off but that does not make you a moral person. This war is the epitome of immoral and wrong. It never should have started and the only reason we are still there is because of the mighty Bush ego. I think on judgement day, these people will stand before God and he will say what gave you the right to say you represent me? And then he will say...go away because I don't know you. I honestly do not know how some of these people sleep at night. I would be down on my knees begging God to forgive me for crimes against humanity.

Answer 5

I heard Maurice Robert Gravel say he was hoping to change all that. He especially want to stop the "Business as Usual" attitude of politics. He said he would get a Fair Tax System going. I think he might be worth listening to and voting for.
Let's get rid of the old ways that have led this country into the quagmire it still seems stuck in.
I think with Gravel as President we will have a chance.

Answer 6

Whoa boy... MAJOR, MAJOR generalizations, straw-men, and otherwise erroneous statements here.

First, Jesus said nothing regarding government except, "Give to Caesar that which is Caesar's, and give to God that which is God's."

Now... Have you ever asked yourself why conservatives are against what we are against?

Universal health-care:
Simply put? It DOES NOT WORK! It won't up the standard of health-care. History has shown that government interference tends to foul things up FAR more than it makes them better. This is one example of things that are better left up to private individuals. That's all. There is a better solution than dependency on the government.

A social safety net:
Are you talking about Social Security here? Again, the solution is making it private, not letting the government grow larger.

A fair tax system:
Conservatives are for a "fair tax system". What we're AGAINST is putting all of the burden on those who work hardest for success. Are you aware that over 50% of all federal taxes are paid by the upper 10% of Americans?

The lower 50% pay less than 1%. Does that seem like a "fair" tax system to you?

A higher standard of living for the welfare bums and so on:
Ah... A liberal trademark... dependency on government welfare. You know, it's an old saying that if you give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. TEACH a man to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.

Conservatives aren't against a higher standard for the poor at all. But ask yourself this. How many are actually poor because of circumstances beyond their control? There are many who choose not to work for themselves because they feel owed something by this country.

Granted, it's not always easy to find a job, but I'm not against giving welfare to people while they're looking, so long as they're making the effort.

However, the current welfare system, by its nature, ENCOURAGES people's dependency on the government. And it's a sad fact that the more people depend on the government, the more power the government has over them and their lives. The more power it has over them and their lives, the more they depend on it. It's a vicious cycle.

Stem Cell Research:
PLEASE specify! Conservatives (not all of them "Bible-thumpers") oppose EMBRYONIC stem-cell research due to the moral and ethical dilemmas it presents (not to mention the fact that it has so far not yielded a SINGLE cure or even promising lead, instead causing cancer (that is, uncontrolled cell growth) in lab animals). Conservatives DO NOT oppose other forms of stem-cell research. And many do not even oppose embryoinic stem-cell research itself; they only oppose federal funding for it, prefering it to be done in the PRIVATE sector.

Meanwhile, if you actually read the Bible you should know that the government DOES have the power of the sword, while providing for the poor, the elderly, the widows, etc. was always left to the Church and to individuals.

So your points are non-existent, based in error. Conservatives and Christians "love our neighbors as ourselves". Where the disagreement with liberals comes is in how best we can care for our neighbors both here and abroad.

Answer 7

The ones that thump the bible so hard, needs to thump it. Because they have no idea on how to treat people. Jesus wouldn't have had to have any of what you mentioned. First of all, he could heal with his touch. The cops no days would have arrested him for practicing without a license.
Jesus had a bad safety net, he got killed.
I don't think they had a tax system back then, then Kings just took what they wanted.
And nope on the last question too. Hummm, guess the world hasn't changed at all! How about that!

Answer 8

I think Jesus would disagree with both parties. However, he did say in the Gospel of Matthew that it takes a rich man more difficulty to get into heaven. He recommend the rich give their stuff away. But neither Democrats nor Republicans who are affluent will ever do that.

Answer 9

Jesus would be labelled a traitor, a Liberal, and a terrorist sympathizer.. becuase he wouldn't believe in pointless warfare dedicated towards the elite, and completely pointless towards the masses and the soldiers who are actually fighting.

Answer 10

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