Are liberals the best thing to ever happen to the American economy?

Question

Remember in the 2004 presidential election when George Soros pumped more than $200 million aggregate into campaign ads and 521 groups and accomplished very close to zero (except to let us know he was there)?

I wonder if the massive Clinton fund raising machine will do the same thing in 2008?

Wouldn't you love to see a billion dollars pumped into the advertising industry by liberals, and then see Fred Thompson drop a total of $5 million and win based on his quality, not on flooding the air waves with character assassination?

Good points made in the first answer, GWB was the "funding" winner in 2004.

But my point is to see those numbers come DOWN. There is real damage being done in that only the rich and the fund-raising geniuses can win an office, not the talented and the statesmen.

Sorry, Stoner. (um, "Stony", sorry).

I watched the 2004 and 2006 ads carefully. Democrats were disgusting both elections. For you to have not noticed the difference drops your level of respect among clear-thinking adults.

Steve, Thompson is setting up his run right now by meeting with former Reagan aids for support in the race. Conservative pundits are already actively campaigning for him: Rush, Laura Ingraham, Matt Drudge, Lars Larson, Sean Hannity, and Michael Metved (that I've heard).

Superpolitics, my friend, labor unions have been in slow decline over the last 80 years. They're becoming irrelavent and no longer represent the working class.

Answer 1

There are more produvtive things that could be done with that money other than paying for TV ads & paying PR flacks.

Answer 2

I personally have always thought what if these candidates raised as much money for charity or a good cause instead of wasting ridiculous amounts of money on negative tv ads. Also why not use their fund raising machines to raise money for all the pork projects they put into bills wasting taxpayer money that could be addressed with private donations?That's not what I would consider a good way of pumping money into the economy! It's actually a bad thing because guys like him are picking the candidates with their money, they are bought and paid for. It would be a much better thing if the amount of money was capped or was a certain amount that each candidate had the same amount to spend so it would be fair to all, maybe they could limit the amount of tv ads so each would get the same that way we would not have to listen to constant attacks on each other from all sides and all candidates. For the guy above who said he cant see why anyone who clocks in for a living would vote republican, I say why would I vote democrat when they want to raise my taxes to give to low income people, I give to charity on my own and I think that the richest of americans should be the ones taxed to help the poorest the middle income should be left alone lest we ascend to the higher, highest income levels. All this crap about universal health care will end being given to illegals and people who wont get a full time job. The democrats think they know better than you how to spend your money if they had their way they would take all we earn and we would just be good little boy and girls and do what they tell us, the republicans leave money in your pocket to spend as you wish. I hate to braek the news to the guy above but the corporations stopped paying taxes during the clinton administration, that is when they all started going to offshore headquarters in the bahamas and other caribbean islands to evade taxes here. I agree they should pay more taxes and the rich also should pay more their gap between rich and poor is far too large, and history repeats itself so when the events of the early 1900's like the russian revolution happen again it will be the fault of the richest people like soros himself.

Answer 3

Stoney, those ads about Max Cleland were true...he did not recieve a Purple Heart for his wounds...he either pulled the pin on the grenade himself or it was pulled when he got off the helicopter...he was saying he was a war hero, but was not wounded by the enemy...but what really got Ol Max was his stand on changing Georgia's flag...I think they should set a limit on how much they can spend and how many ads they can run...

Answer 4

In your dreams. Nobody wins the presidency with $5 mil vs. a billion, not even Fred Thompson. And he wouldn't be dumb enough to test that theory - he'd raise and spend enough to keep up with the other side. Plus he would have to keep up with the other Republicans first to win the nomination.

Answer 5

Why would anyone who has to punch a time clock for a living vote Republican?
There's a reason why Unions hate the Republican party, but I have many more reasons.

Rove's propagandists and the mainstream media have enabled "W" to propel the United States into an illegal, imperialistic invasion of Iraq to perpetuate corporate and big oil interests. Tax cuts for the wealthy have shifted the tax burden to the middle and working class, whose numbers are dwindling thanks to corporate overseas job outsourcing. Under a crushing national debt of $7.5 trillion, America is now the reigning king of Debtor Nations, a title once arrogantly bestowed upon developing nations. How can we saddle our children and grandchildren with that burden? At the rate America is going, future generations will become the indentured servants of China and Japan. Social welfare benefits for the poor are substantially diminishing. Government-endorsed discrimination against gays is increasing. The line between church and state delineated by our Constitution is disappearing. Chasm is the new word to describe the gap between the rich and the poor. Inconceivably, many Americans still adore "W", somehow managing to disregard a mountain of evidence of his incompetence, disregard for the working class, and deceit.


EDIT: YOU SAY THEY ARE IRRELEVANT BECAUSE THAT IS THE WISH OF YOUR PARTY, THE PARTY OF CORPORATE GREED.

From the plutocratic point of view, businesses and corporations simply cannot make their owners, executives, or shareholders obscenely wealthy enough without breaking the backs of the poor and working class. For the affluent to afford multiple multi-million dollar homes, cars that cost more than many homes, yachts, trophy wives, and jet-setting lifestyles, the poor must remain extremely poor. Freeing businesses (and corporations) of pesky impediments like paying taxes, having to negotiate with labor unions, and legal accountability for death or injury resulting from their products or services are essential to ensuring astronomical profits to fulfill the extravagant "needs" of the rich. Cutting "socialist government hand-outs" to the poor enables the plutocrats to give themselves additional tax breaks. In the New Corporatcracy, the elderly, the working class, victimized consumers, the homeless, minorities, the disabled, the sick, and the poor will increasingly discover that they are on their own as Social Darwinists implement "survival of the fittest (with the fattest wallets) policies through the government.

Also, this was the only point I made that you had the gall to attack??

Answer 6

Interesting that you completely ignored the 2006 poll results in your analysis.

As for character assassination: What do you call the smear campaign that led to loss at the polls by Max Cleland, decorated Vietnam vet and 3-limb amputee?

What do you call what Bush did to McClain in 2000?

Like many politicians, you're good at telling half-truths and ignoring what doesn't work for you in making an inane assertion.

Oh.. sorry..um.. "inane assertion" means STUPID POINT.

Answer 7

No. You don't think that Republicans spend hundreds of millions on their campaigns? Get real!

Unknown Mitt Romney, the number 3 runner in the Republican pack, pulled in $23.4 million in contributions for the first quarter of this year, almost as much as Hillary who raised $26 million.

Answer 8

Yeah. Then we can have George C. Scott as Secretary of Defense because he played Patton. Flippin' awesome idea, Dude!

Answer 9

Tell me are you answering your own questions. Are you buddies with Bruce? I think you like Bruce, or maybe you are Bruce.

Answer 10

Oh my but yes. In fact, we're the best thing to happen to anything ever.