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What happens when a certain truth is completly circular, but at the same time an undeniable truth?

This is a hypotheitcal so I don't have any examples on hand. It is more of a "what if" question.

I believe people would not be able to rely on the "circular logic" argument to disprove something.

2007-04-30 05:04:16 · 3 answers · asked by sunscour 4 in Science & Mathematics Astronomy & Space

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These sorts of things are generally considered to be axioms or postulates - "We take the obvious to be true and hold the true to be obvious."

They then form the foundation of all proofs beneath them. Perhaps disturbingly, Godel's theorem states that any consistent (ie. correct) set of descriptions must also be incomplete in some manner, and so must have certain unprovables.

For discussion, see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems

2007-04-30 05:31:00 · answer #1 · answered by xeriar 2 · 0 0

That is really a philosophy question.

As Pilot asked Jesus, "What is truth?"

You can't say, "a certain truth" if you don't even know what truth is. I have seen people deny all "truths", so there appears to be no such thing as an undeniable truth. People can deny anything. People DO deny anything and everything. All the time.

2007-04-30 12:11:33 · answer #2 · answered by campbelp2002 7 · 0 0

this type of truth is known as tautological as in circular point of logic or truth.

the power of the narrative creates the belief in the "truth" of it. interestingly - the best examples are mythology. Any myth holds the truth in the story - the story justifies the belief

Ideology works the same way - it has focus - it has a basis of rationale and it "creates" belief.

2007-04-30 12:27:29 · answer #3 · answered by Ustra 3 · 0 0

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