Guantamo bay prisoners in limbo???

Question

People who were found to be innocent after being held for anywhere from 1-6 years in Guantamo Bay are not being released because we have no where to send them. In our rush to accuse, we have tainted people where they are now persona non grata for crimes they did not commit ( or we could not even prove they committed). There are currently 385 prisoners there and according to our OWN government, most of them will be released because they were not guilty. When all is said and done, out of the 385 prisoners we held ONLY 60-80 MIGHTbe put on trial, the rest freed. Have we not just created yet another level of hatred for this country with boneheaded tactics?
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sfl-agitmo29apr29,0,6177937.story

No Mark, what I am saying is this. Why did we take these people in the first place? We did not bother to check before we accused. People who might NOT have been persecuted before will surely be persecuted now in their homelands. We did things a*s backwards. Bounties offered by the US for suspected terrorists have created a black market in abductions in Pakistan, according to a report published September 27, 2006.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/bbd820b2-4f3a-11db-b600-0000779e2340.html
http://www.cageprisoners.com/articles.php?id=20054

Amy, you still don't get it. These people were not terrorists. To get $5,000, a person walking down the street was shanghied and taken by the warlords to the US authorities. How would you feel if a relative was walking down the street and they disappeared? They were kidnapped to collect a bounty and they get a label for life for something they did not do?

Answer 1

We never even bothered TRYING to convict them... and the Bush administration wanted to change the rules before they would do it. So now they've started giving trials to some of the people who have been there for so long, as you say, in limbo... you can't give them a fair trial after that, and it's not fair anyway now that they've changed the rules. But what do you expect from the administration that had their legal department come up with a justification for torture, and filled the Supreme Court with people who agree? History will remember this, but unfortunately, Bush will probably never end up in jail for this himself.


mark, they don't get three meals a day. they get one. and sleep deprivation as a form of interrogation. as well as threat of electrocution and stress positions. I bet you'd have a lot of fun with that.

Answer 2

In future, you may want to make your question more apparent, as this barely qualifies as a question. (According to the Guidelines, which you can read by clicking the link at the bottom of most pages, questions are supposed to be questions, not rants or statements disguised as questions.)

Anyway, to respond:

There's the fact that torture and holding people indefinitely when you haven't proved them guilty of something is Just Wrong.

Then there's the fact that it's illegal. (It's not true that they are beyond the scope of the Geneva Conventions -- or other international law -- as the Liar in Chief has claimed, since there's no such thing as holding any person beyond the bound of all law, according to, among other things, the final article of the Geneva Conventions.)

Then there's the fact that any claim we make to be in support of human rights, human decency, or the rule of law are proven to be completely bogus, not only because we are torturers, but because we are mass-murderers who destroyed a country for no real reason.

But, yes, it's also true that our holding tens of thousands of people (not just as Gitmo, but in lots of places), and that we've been torturing people since early 2002, torturing many to death, has increased both the number of people all over the world who hate the U.S., and increased the amount of hatred they feel -- justifiably.

Making it not only immoral and illegal, but boneheaded and counter-productive as well.

BTW, I couldn't believe Tenet last night on 60 Minutes who kept yelling "We don't torture!" What garbage.

I guess Jon Stewart was right, "It's not torture; it's Freedom Tickling."

Answer 3

So what you are saying is that we should send them to whatever country so they can be tortured and killed by that government? To be honest with you, I'd rather stay at Guantanamo where I'm guaranteed a hot shower and 3 meals a day. Not to mention a matress to sleep on and a roof over my head. That place is heaven compared to a lot of places in the world.

Answer 4

You nailed it. More proof of incompetency at the top.

Answer 5

No one like GB. Unfortunately, its a necessary evil. Perhaps we will be able to come up with something better . . . but until then . . .