Is There A Philosophical Argument To Prove That The Idea "There is Not Smoke Without Fire Is False"???

Question

For example, people that are murdered simply due to suspision without ever being actually proved guilty of committing a crime?

Answer 1

this dictum-"no smoke without fire" doesnt apply always. For example Maata Sita was pure but some people said that she wasnt. because of them Lord Rama sent her to the forest n she bore a punishment for a crime that she was miles and miles away from, that couldnt even touch her in thoughts.

Answer 2

It is in general observation that fire is the cause of smoke, or smoke is the effect caused by fire, for if there is smoke then there must be fire, or even: a smoke bellowing from somewhere is only the beginning to what is most likely and logical to follow, a fire.

This famous proverbial saying forms a part of common human wisdom. It reminds us, through an analogy that has symbolism very alarming to the mind of the essential logic that links events in factual reality of things seemingly very different and unlikely to bear any interlink. If, for example, there is a crime then there must be someone who has committed it, or for every criminal act there must be someone to be accused, and thence tried in the court of justice; but justice is blind, and its delivery far from being perfect. In my view, this saying is only good for the purpose of investigative personnel at the police.

Like all things in human knowledge definitions of justice must be relative to a context, like in the law of the land. What is the crime? Can an individual be held responsible for the things that he or she might do? Or is it the society, the parenting or the environment that enable people to do all things good or bad? According to the Chaos theory if a butterfly flaps its wings in the sea of China then it can cause a storm in Atlantic ocean, so can then that butterfly be charged for the mischief?

Answer 3

yes sure that there is ..... there's always a good argument with words,they can always be changed to suit who, what , or whatever..... and are people murdered due to wrong suspicions yes , word of mouth ( pen ) can be more dangerous , even greater than sword it seems , vigilantly persona , cant believe in innocent till prov en guilty, blame the justice system then , see play on word so no smoke without fire is very dangerous saying wish people wouldn't use it has killed maimed and ruined many a life ...so be careful about your use of words

Answer 4

I don't know about a philosophical argument but you only have to look at this site to see how many people misinterpret questions and give answers with a bias that wasn't in the question, in all categories. Peoples interpretations get them all worked up and ready to declare war over something that is of there own making. One of my most recent questions proved this point nicely.

Answer 5

Assume where there is smoke there is fire is true. -Modus Ponens
There is smoke. There is also fire- Repetition
It is not the case, that it is not the case that there is smoke. But there is fire.-Double Negation
Sometimes there is smoke; there is no fire-Biconditional-Conditional
Sometimes there is fire; there is no smoke-Conditional-biconditional
Example: "There is no death without suicide."
Ceasar is dead. Therefore, Ceasar committed suicide. OK. Ceasar is in point of fact dead. But as a matter of historical fact: Ceasar did not committ suicide, he was murdered. Hence in like manner, "There is not smoke without fire is false is valid because it has been proven impossible for the premise of the statement to be true and the conclusion false.

Answer 6

of course this is false
imagine how many people who have been falsely acccused in the past

also if you want to think about it philosophical way think of the chicken and egg question which came first

a chicken has to come from an egg
the egg had to come from a chicken
but one had to be first and therefore one existed alone before the other even though there is no solution to this scientifically

if there was a chicken without an egg or an egg without a chicken surely it is possible that there is smoke without fire

confused.....................i am

Answer 7

I believe there is No God. Does that change others belief in God even when they have no supportive reason ,but are dogmatic still to believe in God . So it is something like Community belief -right or wrong against an individual belief . The person with individual and right belief is not strong enough to turn hundred wrongs into a logically correct right .This argument holds good even for your case .

Answer 8

R u sure? With money and power, everything can be settle. Black becomes white and white becomes black. With power, everyone even obeys to do one evil bidding free of charge too...
this is a corruption and dirty age now! haha...

Remember : Good deeds can be hide, safe and sound. Bad deeds cannot be hide and the truth will find it own way to surface it out. :P That's apply if you have a upright, law and order justice enforcers but i don't think so nowaday, especially today living standard.

Answer 9

Cause and effect is interwoven.As far as worldly knowledge is concerned, and logically also there is no smoke without fire. For every outward results, there will be some unseen cause which can be traced only to previous lives.

Answer 10

It's not hard! It's just a very misleading analogy. Gossip does not necessarily flow from an event as smoke does from fire.

Even if you like the analogy, let's not forget the possibility of arson: just because your house is on fire, it doesn't mean you started it.