My employer refuses to recognise unions. Staff turnover is horrendous yet authorities fail to notice. Now we are owed for PHs worked 2006-07 - 2 months overdue. Management are useless but I need the job - at the moment! What can I do?
2007-04-26 04:42:53 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
I used to be a union rep many years ago for the National Union of Railmen.It was (although I am not sure now)that an employer HAD to recognise union membership and the union in negosiations if the number of staff wishing to maintain the union didn`t drop below a certain % it used to be about 15% of the workforce.
This although doesn`t stop you from joining a union applicable to your trade.although the employer doesn`t have to recognise your membership,only that they are obliged to deduct and make payments to the union in question.
You have to ask yourself what union membership benefits would bring.An employer can still railroad an unpopular desision through,union or not.Unions recognise the right of management to manage.Thats the problem.
If you did get a umion in and recognised then one of you would have to all the work,and I can tell you it`s a lot.and it`s a thankless task,putting you in a very nasty position.Although for me it was easier with 4 others in the team and backup from the national trade union.
If you are so disatisfied with your job and cant find an internal solution then quite honestly the best thing to do is look elsewhere for another job.
It is a long prosess to get union recognition so dont take it on unless you have the conviction for a long fight.
2007-04-26 04:58:35 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Hi Sara,
If you live in the UK.
This is an area of law we call industrial law. The law is very specific about union recognition by the employer.
You need to look at the Trade Union and Labour Realtions (Consolidation) Act 1992 Schedule A1 Part 1.
Your union convenor should know all about this so I cannot see the difficulty. You may run into problems if there are less than 21 employees in the company.
If there are things happening that are illegal you can go to the shop steward who can inform the union. They should then pass this on to their solicitors.
Remember, your employer may not recognise the union for the purposes of collective bargaining but he cannot stop you being a member of a union or treat you differently as a result of union membership.
Good luck
2007-04-27 00:23:18 · answer #2 · answered by LYN W 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
If this is a question from the UK, the law is that if a majority of the workforce, or a majority from a working section have a ballot and vote in favour of union recognition the employer is legally bound to recognise your union.
Furthermore your union would then be the sole negotiating and consultation body for the entire workforce or for the work section that held the ballot.
Contact ACAS for further information.
2007-04-26 05:55:53 · answer #3 · answered by Barrie G 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I can't blame your employer. Unions are the foulest thing going for workers these days. Several years ago, UPS went on strike. They were supposed to get money from their union all throughout the strike (teamsters) but after two weeks, they ran out of money. Now where did the money go? Unions are a way to screw the common working man/woman. They may help you a little but when it comes down to it, they are only there to suck up your money so they can have a good life at your back breaking expense.
I know you need the money but you have no say so in the matter. If you go on strike, will your union pay your the full amount of money you were making? I don't think so. They've already spent it on their own families and going out and partying. I know, I've been in two unions and my brother-in-law is high up in a major union. I will NEVER work in a place where you have to join a union...EVER!
2007-04-26 05:08:57 · answer #4 · answered by Kevin A 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Are you in the UK?
If so, How on earth does your employer refuse to recognise a Union legally?
Any employer of over 21 employees has to recognise a trade union by law.
Even if there is no union involved you still have Statutory rights which by law cant be broken.
And anyway it sounds like your employers are in breach of contract.
Get to CAB and get some proper detailed advice and options.
Good luck!
Check out the TUC and DTI websites too
http://www.tuc.org.uk/
http://www.dti.gov.uk/
2007-04-26 09:21:45 · answer #5 · answered by Ah! 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Unions are normally registered.Local laws differ.Normally Labour Bord / Labour Commissioner/Tribumal to takes up if the union is not recognised.For recognising a union it should have substantial membership.The management is supposed to negotiate with recognised unions only.Even if a union is not recognised it can compell the management to negotiate by strke etc,if it can get support of majority of employees.
2007-04-26 21:35:06 · answer #6 · answered by leowin1948 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Call your state labor board about back pay that you are owed. Also, you might concider contacting a local TV stations trouble shooter, they usually get results. Your employer has no obligation to unionize. Good Luck.
2007-04-26 04:50:54 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
an emplyoyer does not have to reconize a union. it is a private busness. you can join a union, and they can represent you, but if management doesnt want to talk they dont have to. the union call foor a strick, and the owner has about 3 options, agree with union, fire everyone and rehire new people, or close the busnes
2007-04-26 04:52:19 · answer #8 · answered by skcs11 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Contact your union office and ask them to step in on your behalf that is what they are supposed to do. If the company won't listen then they are to call for a strike, that is what makes companies listen.
2007-04-26 04:49:32 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Absolutely nothing.
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2007-04-26 04:48:43 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋