Do you think people run as R or D because they know they can't win as a third party candidate?

Question

For example. George Bush does not represent the Republican party, Not by definition anyhow.
What party or type of government do you think he represents?

seriously if you were a socialist you would run as a D right? If you were a fascist what would you run for.
These were just a few more examples. You can put most parties in two one of the two

Answer 1

The Party of Satanic Self-Interest. In all seriousness, Bush really represents the interests of the Illuminati, the international bankers and various other ilk. These are the ones who have been working on the New World Order for centuries. Things have been going very quickly towards this end since they killed JFK, the last almost honest president. He was killed because his plans in his presidency began to seriously go against the NWO agenda.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=695FEB55D2445D36
Bush & the Assassination of JFK

I truly see Bush as a servant of Lucifer. He and his buddies do enough devil worshiping and such people are beyond religion, decency, and political affiliation. They step in wherever they can, the essential opportunists.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-82095917705734983
Bohemian Grove

I am not Dem, I am not Rep. I am not American. I am an "impartial" observer who feels that what happens to you guys effects us very much up in Canada.

We all know that the two party system is a myth. Just a diversionary technique so we all think we actually have a say in who does what. HAHAHAHA. They all serve the same Master. As Lenin said, "It does not matter who the people vote for, they always get us."

http://www.rense.com/general58/suspre.htm
The Illuminati-Staged US Presidential Election

Nothing has changed.

But there are a few good politicians out there. RON PAUL is by far the biggest bee under the saddle for the criminals. The name of this man should be shouted from the rooftops!

I am kicking myself because I lost the link to a Black American politican, a woman, who looked to be an excellent woman and politician. Comes to mind she in in the Midddle East somewhere but I forget.

Anti-Neocons No More Wars for Israel
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/
Look around this site. There are some interesting alternative politicians to be found here.

The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14-defining characteristics common to each:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

What a mess you guys have to deal with!

And to answer your question? Yes alas I do, because few have the INTERNAL FORTITUDE OR FINANCIAL CAPACITY to stand alone. RON PAUL RON PAUL RON PAUL is the only one! HE IS A HERO.

Answer 2

I don't understand the connection between your question and commentary.
In the meantime,,,try to think of the times you've heard the media mention anything about 3rd parties. You won't - because the 2-party system benefits the media and the corporate world - embraced by the Republicans.

True - Bush's ideology doesn't represent traditional Republican beliefs - he's a Neocon. A far right extremist. A warmonger - and we're paying the high price for his wars of choice - planned before 2001 - that benefit many of his wealthy buds.

Unfortunately, most Republicans have supported him while thinking he was a Republican and disbelieving what they were seeing. And within the Bush culture of fear and death - those Republicans have followed his warmongering Neocon ways - further and further to the right - and more wars, death and destruction at home and abroad.

And the further they move right - the more they disdain any voices which don't sound like Bush. And so - they're stuck
with him and will stick with him - right over the cliff.

Answer 3

Some people may find it odd that there are many third party candidates, but the truth is that we're one of the very few countries in the world where basically there's always a two party election (of any kind, not only presidential), and I, like many others have wondered WHY over the years. I personally think having more than two parties makes for the healthiest, more honest, liveliest, and interesting of ELECTIONS!!!

Answer 4

Obviously if you were a socialist you would run as a R or D,in our case a Dem,namely Hillary. But we the people are the ones who have made it impossible to get a third party. How many times have you heard people say they would rather vote for someone else,but don't want to waste their vote? Well if all the people who felt like that voted the way they believed we would probably already have a viable third party,like perhaps a stronger Libertarian party. We are the architects of our own demise,every election we vote for the lesser of two evils,then complain when they ream us. I haven't voted for more than a couple from the two parties for over a decade myself,I vote my conscience and let it fall where it will. My candidate may lose but I know I didn't elect any of these animals.

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Answer 5

I absolutely agree with you. Unless you are independently very wealthy and are willing to spend millions of your personal money to get elected, you have to go this route. That eliminates almost all of us from running as independents.

As for your second question, I consider myself Republican and, although I don't follow all the daily nonsense, I think he has adequately represented Republican interests over the years. I suspect you take exception with him on a few issues and this is the source of your comment. Just consider that not all Republicans would necessarily agree with you on every issue either.

Answer 6

Bush brought the Old Southern Conservative Democratic Party Ideals with him from Texas.

The Old Southern Conservative Democratic Party stood for:
cheap labor,
low-tax tradition of Southern farmers, ranchers and oil men, fundamentalist religion mixed with government, and militarism.

Does that sound familiar? It's Bush's "Republican" platform.
Why do you think so many BLUE Southerns were willing to vote RED? As the Democratic Party grew more liberal, the wedge of Old School Southern Conservative Democrats became George W's ticket to the White House.

And you're right ... For now the winning party is going to be from the R or D camp. Many supporters are already built-in. It just makes good business sense.

Answer 7

I think a 3rd party guy will have a real shot by 2012 as the American people (who have minds) are tired of this bullcrap that passes for government in our country. Bush represents the far left- admit it or not.

Answer 8

the neo-conservative/new world order agenda. both R's and D's are representatives of the NWO now.

A third party is needed if we ever want to overcome CORRUPTION! because if you keep letting the same crooks back in, they won't ever clean up their act! it is like they just switch off every 8 years, and do their worst!

i agree with barbara.

Answer 9

yes. all the time. everyone knows that you have no chance to win the presidency as a 3rd party candidate. running for the senate is a little easier as a 3rdparty, and the house is somewhat doable, because you don't have to have a huge area to get your name out.

Answer 10

Part one of your question. Answer absolutely - they pick R or D because independent can't win.
Part two of your question. What party do I think he represents? Frat Party

Answer 11

A democratic government. He was elected to office.